[Ardour-Users] analog summing

Matt Keys matt at mattkeys.net
Sun Dec 17 05:16:17 PST 2017

lol at the power cable! I was catching a whiff of bs on statements like these ..

"Mixing “in the box”–aka “ITB”–has been noted by many users as having apparent limitations, which are commonly described as “lack of headroom,” “poor spacial imaging,” “loss of low level detail,” and “inadequate preservation of transients.”

"A line mixer or console on the other hand performs several tasks- summing, level balancing (faders), spatial placement (panners), and aux routing of tracks.  To put it simply, if it has a level control and/or a panner on the inputs it is a line mixer, not a summing amplifier. These functions are already happening in the DAW, so repeating them in the hardware domain on the back-end is detrimental for 2 primary reasons-

1. Instant Recall capability is lost.

2. Running your audio through unnecessary components compromises the signal path."

I guess I'm not alone? :)

From: Ardour-Users <ardour-users-bounces at lists.ardour.org> on behalf of Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 8:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] analog summing

On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 12:35:49 +0000, Matt Keys wrote:
>I'm not really trying to do anything at the moment other than
>understand when and why you'd want to use something like the 2-bus
>(http://dangerousmusic.com/product/2-bus-plus/), or how it is

2-BUS+ - Dangerous Music<http://dangerousmusic.com/product/2-bus-plus/>
Surpassing The Original

>different than for example the stereo main outs of a 16 channel analog
>mixer? Is the extra 'color' claim completely bullshit?

Most important for the mix are the used power cords, see
https://www.thomann.de/gb/vovox_initio_power_180.htm?ref=search_rslt_powercord_251685 ;D.

IOW it most likely is bullshit! Indeed analog gear could improve the
sound, in the same way as digital equipment could improve the sound.
However, to improve the audio quality you need to take care of the
complete sound chain. Perhaps replacing a pro-sumer audio interface by
a professional audio interface is a good starting point. Or replacing a
cheap microchip based mixing console by a more expensive, discrete
circuit based mixing console. Or ...
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