[Ardour-Users] Multiple USB Input recording ___IS___ needed. No it is not "DUMMB" to want this feature.

will cunningham willpanther at gmail.com
Mon Jan 13 10:14:12 PST 2014


I wasn't trying to say in my post about Ardour coming into its own that
it's for pro audio needs mainly.  The poetry of the situation is that in
getting to the cusp of that realm,  as an open source app it gives everyone
access to the many features needed from both the old school more DAW as a
replacement for mixing boards world, to the newer school DAW as a musical
composition realm.

Right now I tried this for people in both realms and had a perspective on
the duality that we're a little rough right now but we're damned close.
It's win win for hobbyists and pros using the same app because Ardour can
become a means not just for doing higher end projects, but for exposing
people to really solid work flows who are trying to sort through all the
advertising posing as information out there.

High quality hobbyist audio projects can now be with very little cash
outlay, as well as pro needs with high end mics/preamps etc.  In both cases
understanding how to use your DAW is where the action is, and Ardour is
coming into its own for everyone to use a subset of its features for
discovering an effective work flow for their needs.

I only put up a post now to emphasize that its a monster task to get all of
these features up to speed in the early non beta era of Ardour3 before
addressing needs that might not be the most needed by pros or hobbyists for
high quality projects at their level.  That is, Paul, Robin etc. have their
hands full without every "wouldn't it be neat if" feature being added to
the list of  these core needs being polished at this point in time.

Will




On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Brett Clark <brett.clark at zirous.com> wrote:

>
> As a pretty long time reader and (unfortunately) rare speaker to
>> conversation on this list,
>
>
> Me too.
>
> After reading through all that bullshit I think it is important to hijack
>> this thread (just for a sec) and sing some praise to Paul and crew for all
>> the hard work they do, not to mention the unfathomable amount of patience
>> it must take to answer these questions, with class. I love this software
>> (and this list) and use it all the time. I have learned a TON just reading
>> through Q&A's between us users and Paul and crew. To come here and insult
>> just blows my mind.
>
>
> Agreed!!!  I started using Ardour v0.99 (anybody remember that version?)
> way back in the day and have never strayed.  Im always impressed with what
> can be done between the software Ardour, Paul, the developers, and the
> Ardour community.  Thanks to everyone involved!!!
>
> As far as "cheap" goes, when i started into music all i used was a
> Behringer mixer for the mic pre-amps($49) and the built-in Soundblaster
> card on my computer.  Yup, only 2 tracks per run but i made it do.  If it
> wasnt for Ardour then i wouldn't have been able to do anything at all.
>  Ardour opens the field for EVERYONE to make music!!!
>
> Thanks again guys!!!
>
> --Brett
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Ed Ballinger <eballinger at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> As a pretty long time reader and (unfortunately) rare speaker to
>> conversation on this list, I must say this thread is painful to read.
>> Ignorance only scratches the surface.
>>
>> After reading through all that bullshit I think it is important to hijack
>> this thread (just for a sec) and sing some praise to Paul and crew for all
>> the hard work they do, not to mention the unfathomable amount of patience
>> it must take to answer these questions, with class. I love this software
>> (and this list) and use it all the time. I have learned a TON just reading
>> through Q&A's between us users and Paul and crew. To come here and insult
>> just blows my mind.
>>
>> Please keep doing what y'all are doing! It is absolutely appreciated :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10 January 2014 19:17, Paul Davis <paul at linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:05 PM, ChaosEsque Team <
>>> chaosesqueteam at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fuck your professional sound engineers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pro sound engineers would not be using ardour.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your opinion has been noted.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> People who don't have the money to drop 300 or more on an xlr mic,
>>>
>>>
>>> an SM58 is about $100
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2000 on a mixer,
>>>
>>>
>>> why would they need a mixer?
>>>
>>>
>>>> plus 1000 for each and every amp.
>>>
>>>
>>> my Art tube preamp cost about $49.
>>>
>>>
>>>> They use ardour.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Praise the heavens!
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You know: normal human beings, not super-rich mother fuck-er-s.
>>>>
>>>> Bands making music also cannot afford that fucking shit.
>>>> Usb inputs on all the low end stuff is nice.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, its fucking shit (to coin a phrase)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Opens up the field.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmmm. Let me see. What could I do to "open up the field". I know. Write
>>> an open source DAW. Release it under the GPL. Allow people to get it for
>>> nothing, or whatever price they want. Create an audio interconnect system
>>> allowing applications to share audio with each and the hardware. Oh wait
>>> ...
>>>
>>> If you don't want poor people recording music,
>>>
>>>
>>> No Sir! The poors have never made good music. Not the slaves, or the
>>> gypsys or the peasants ... it was all crap. Don't want any of their music
>>> infecting the music of the high bourgeoisie. Give me the art of the
>>> patron-funded, alone, because I wouldn't want any of that downbeat shit
>>> getting into my body.
>>>
>>>
>>>> and you make sure they can't together in ardour etc, well ... I am not
>>>> going to say what I think should happen to you: but you are a piece of shit
>>>> and I hope you are treated as one.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well then, in that case I'll be happy to remove you from the mailing
>>> list and bid you good day, sir!
>>>
>>> Seriously, are you for real? You show up on a mailing list like this and
>>> expect people to listen for more than a second to your insulting, rude and
>>> at least partially ignorant ranting. Here's a hint.
>>>
>>> "Hi, I'm really interested in helping people who want to use Ardour with
>>> multiple cheap (USB) audio interfaces. It doesn't seem very easy right now
>>> to do this sort of thing - in fact, I'm not even clear if it is possible -
>>> and I'd appreciate some guidance because I think this is really important
>>> group of people: folks that can't afford multichannel interfaces and lots
>>> of amps, the sort of people who might really be attracted to a tool like
>>> Ardour.
>>>
>>> Can I get a few clues on how this should work, so I can write up a
>>> helpful and useful page that people can refer to?"
>>>
>>> Wasn't that easy?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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