[Ardour-Users] Noob Alert: Process Question - best practices for multiple takes
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Sun Oct 24 03:32:37 PDT 2010
Stephen Nesbitt wrote:
> I am just starting to use Ardour to regularly record my guitar efforts
> (sometimes known as the diary of how I am or am not improving). In doing so, I
> of course often will have numerous takes.
> My question is from a process point of view - what is a suggested
> workflow/process? One track per take? Multiple tracks per tape? Keep recording
> throughout? Stop and start and recording for each take? And then how to review
> and select one of among many takes? And how to do it in a relatively seamless
> way that doesn't get in the way of the actual recording (Put the instrument
> down? Find mouse, click around, etc.)
> I'm hoping Ardour users will share their experience and advise not on the
> functions of Ardour, but how best to use its function in this context.
> Thanks in advance,
I write instrumental rock music, so this might not be particularly
applicable to your situation, but I use one track per instrument (each
part of the drum kit, bass, several guitar and keyboard parts etc).
I inevitably end up with multiple takes of lead instruments. On a
particular track I use different Playlists (the P button for each track
in the edit window) for takes, with one take per Playlist. I usually end
up creating a final playlist where I comp (composite; by copying and
pasting) all the best bits together.
By creating an edit group and adding several tracks to it you can create
what Ardour calls a Take, which is basically linked Playlists for those
tracks. This is incredibly useful for me as I tend to record guitar
(acoustic and electric) with a couple of mics rather than one (to
capture slightly different sounds and blend them together afterwards). I
have a track per mic and link them as an edit group: every time I want
to do a new Take I use the playlist button on one track and it creates a
new playlist for each track, which minimises the amount of clicking
Whether I'm recording on a single track with playlists or multiple with
takes, I find this the best workflow for me with minimal clicking: I
just need to click on the P, select New/New Take, hit Shift R to record
enable and finally hit the Spacebar when ready to record.
As for reviewing, I tend to do a bunch of takes, then sit down and
listen to them all in one go afterwards, after I've put the instrument
down, swapping between performance hat and recording hat and trying not
to overlap different roles too much. The Take function makes it easier
to change a bunch of related playlist takes together when auditioning --
you don't really want to change playlist for a different take and it
only change one mic's recording of a performance and leave the other
track with a different run through. It's after having listened to all
the takes that I'll go through and select the best bits for the comp.
I do use takes for different purposes. When I'm still writing, I'll do
takes to try out different things -- different guitar sounds, different
improvised solos, different synth patches, different melodies or
harmonies -- until I've firmly decided on exactly how it's all going to
sound in the end. When it comes to the final, proper recording, the
takes are just to capture a good performance of the same thing, or
enough good bits that I can comp "the one" final take!
I hope this helps.
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