[Ardour-Users] The future?

david headon davidheadonuk at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Aug 11 03:19:06 PDT 2010

Simon makes a number of good points in this post.
Ubuntu Studio,
64 Studio,

are all now being based around Ubuntu [ unstable - testing ]
I'm using straight Ubuntu with various repos enabled, to allow 'non-free' codecs 
and other attributes necessary for media production.
I find package management under Ubuntu convenient, but not perfect.
 As a long time fan of 'straight' Debian, i have enjoyed the relatively 
un-contrived aspect of logging in as 'root' for administration.
It is a bit bothersome to me that i must utilise 'sudo-' for admin under Ubuntu, 
but in recent years, the proliferation of admin scripts on the net has made 
tedious tasks quite painless. 

I guess, we gain and lose in equal measure.
If i were running web/php/sql servers, it would be straight 'stable' Debian all 
the way, 

whereas, my desktop needs and multimedia work (ie, most of what i need to do )
have benefited from the Ubuntu community  and it's relative merits.

Ardour/Jack users from the Gentoo or SuSe community, are there any advantages to 
running a system on these platforms?
Mandriva? i am considering 'all comers' for my next multimedia box
 (building as we speak),
BUT,   I'd love to keep the initial setup time to a minimum...

I keep coming back to Ubuntu-

I'm very keen to hear other ideas and ways of working!

thanks to Paul and all the members of this list for years of fascinating growth 
and learning.

I dearly want to fine the optimum system for running Ardour so that i can, with 
total confidence, begin to utilise Jack/Ardour commercially  as a production 
tool for my clients.
The 'next step' might allow me to contribute financially to the Ardour project, 
and be a 'non-hobbyist' user!



From: Simon Wise <simonzwise at gmail.com>
To: ardour-users at lists.ardour.org
Sent: Wed, 11 August, 2010 10:25:14
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Debian?

On 10/08/10 19:42, christian at shamanbenefit.net wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- From: simonzwise at gmail.com To:
> ardour-users at lists.ardour.org Date: 10.08.2010 12:29:38 Subject: Re:
> [Ardour-Users] ardour&  "phoning home"
>> It is actually easier to install Ardour on Linux than OSX, it is maintained
>> in Debian and probably several other distributions
> Well, no, that's just not true. I'm using Debian stable and there is *NO*
> ardour available. Actually, the last version I've seen here was 0.99. So, of
> course, if you use 'testing' or 'unstable' you can get it from apt, but using
> stable, the best possibility is to compile.

Yes, choosing a distribution to suit your needs is possibly the most difficult
step for a Linux user, especially new ones, and it is always a controversial 
topic among more experienced users. There are lots of sensible ways to make the 

As I understand Debian the "Stable" version is directed to the needs of servers
and similar, it is intentionally not kept up to date and is extremely strict
about licensing and potential legal issues. The only updates are security
related, and the release process is slow, careful and infrequent.

Most [all?] of the Debian based distributions intended for desktop or notebook
use are based on "Unstable", anyone wanting to run multimedia using Debian is
much more likely to find the software they want there, and will probably also
want to use some extra repositories which are less strict about codecs, patents
and so forth.

At least one project, Sidux, has made it easy to run a very up-to-date Debian
system by tracking "Unstable" closely and allowing reliable updating as
frequently as the user wants to do it. Several multimedia oriented distributions 
make releases based on snapshots of "Unstable". I don't think that Debian 
"Stable" is a sensible choice for audio use, it just isn't intended for that 
purpose, and although the up-coming release will be much better than the 
previous ones it will still get out of date quite fast.

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