<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif;font-size:14pt">Simon makes a number of good points in this post.<br>Ubuntu Studio,<br>64 Studio,<br>and APODIO<br><br>are all now being based around Ubuntu [ unstable - testing ]<br> repositories.<br>I'm using straight Ubuntu with various repos enabled, to allow 'non-free' codecs and other attributes necessary for media production.<br>I find package management under Ubuntu convenient, but not perfect.<br> As a long time fan of 'straight' Debian, i have enjoyed the relatively un-contrived aspect of logging in as 'root' for administration.<br>It is a bit bothersome to me that i must utilise 'sudo-' for admin under Ubuntu, but in recent years, the proliferation of admin scripts on the net has made tedious tasks quite painless. <br><br>I guess, we gain and lose in equal measure.<br>If i were running web/php/sql
servers, it would be straight 'stable' Debian all the way, <br><div>whereas, my desktop needs and multimedia work (ie, most of what i need to do )<br>have benefited from the Ubuntu community and it's relative merits.<br><br>Ardour/Jack users from the Gentoo or SuSe community, are there any advantages to running a system on these platforms?<br>Mandriva? i am considering 'all comers' for my next multimedia box<br> (building as we speak),<br>BUT, I'd love to keep the initial setup time to a minimum...<br><br>I keep coming back to Ubuntu-<br><br>I'm very keen to hear other ideas and ways of working!<br><br>thanks to Paul and all the members of this list for years of fascinating growth and learning.<br><br>I dearly want to fine the optimum system for running Ardour so that i can, with total confidence, begin to utilise Jack/Ardour commercially as a production tool for my clients.<br>The 'next step' might allow me to contribute
financially to the Ardour project, and be a 'non-hobbyist' user!<br><br>thanks-<br><br>dav=-0<br><br><br><br></div><div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 14pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Simon Wise <simonzwise@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> ardour-users@lists.ardour.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wed, 11 August, 2010 10:25:14<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Ardour-Users] Debian?<br></font><br>On 10/08/10 19:42, <a ymailto="mailto:christian@shamanbenefit.net" href="mailto:christian@shamanbenefit.net">christian@shamanbenefit.net</a> wrote:<br>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <a ymailto="mailto:simonzwise@gmail.com" href="mailto:simonzwise@gmail.com">simonzwise@gmail.com</a>
To:<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:ardour-users@lists.ardour.org" href="mailto:ardour-users@lists.ardour.org">ardour-users@lists.ardour.org</a> Date: 10.08.2010 12:29:38 Subject: Re:<br>> [Ardour-Users] ardour& "phoning home"<br>> <br>>> It is actually easier to install Ardour on Linux than OSX, it is maintained<br>>> in Debian and probably several other distributions<br>> <br>> Well, no, that's just not true. I'm using Debian stable and there is *NO*<br>> ardour available. Actually, the last version I've seen here was 0.99. So, of<br>> course, if you use 'testing' or 'unstable' you can get it from apt, but using<br>> stable, the best possibility is to compile.<br><br>Yes, choosing a distribution to suit your needs is possibly the most difficult<br>step for a Linux user, especially new ones, and it is always a controversial topic among more experienced users. There are lots of sensible ways to make the
choice.<br><br>As I understand Debian the "Stable" version is directed to the needs of servers<br>and similar, it is intentionally not kept up to date and is extremely strict<br>about licensing and potential legal issues. The only updates are security<br>related, and the release process is slow, careful and infrequent.<br><br>Most [all?] of the Debian based distributions intended for desktop or notebook<br>use are based on "Unstable", anyone wanting to run multimedia using Debian is<br>much more likely to find the software they want there, and will probably also<br>want to use some extra repositories which are less strict about codecs, patents<br>and so forth.<br><br>At least one project, Sidux, has made it easy to run a very up-to-date Debian<br>system by tracking "Unstable" closely and allowing reliable updating as<br>frequently as the user wants to do it. Several multimedia oriented distributions make releases based on snapshots of "Unstable". I
don't think that Debian "Stable" is a sensible choice for audio use, it just isn't intended for that purpose, and although the up-coming release will be much better than the previous ones it will still get out of date quite fast.<br><br><br>Simon<br>_______________________________________________<br>Ardour-Users mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:ardour-users@lists.ardour.org" href="mailto:ardour-users@lists.ardour.org">ardour-users@lists.ardour.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-users-ardour.org" target="_blank">http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-users-ardour.org</a><br></div></div>
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