[ardour-users] Refugee from Windoze/Cubase -drowning in Linux/Ardour

Keith Smith kah.smith at shaw.ca
Tue Apr 19 15:33:22 PDT 2005


On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 14:31 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

> This will happen in a couple of cases that I can think of:
> 
> 1) Some audio application already has ahold of the sound card. Jack
> cannot start because it wants the sound card.
> 
> 2) Jack is already running. If Ardour started Jack (As it seems to at
> the wrong frequency) then I think you'll get this same message. Try a
> 
> ps aux | grep jack

I just ran ardour from the gnome menu (no jack beforhand). Ardour is
running as I:

[ks at S01060050da7307e1 ~]$ ps aux | grep jack
ks        6578  0.3  3.5 36728 36720 ?       SLl  16:01
0:00 /usr/bin/jackstart -T -ndefault -T -R -d alsa -p 512
ks        6617  0.0  0.0  3644  640 pts/1    R+   16:01   0:00 grep jack
[ks at S01060050da7307e1 ~]$
Hmm. There's jackstart again

> 
> and see if there are any process left running after you've run Ardour.
> If so kill them before starting QJC.
> 
> 3) The path that Jack is running is apparently wrong for a properly
> installed Planet box:
> 
> /usr/local/bin/jackd -t200 -dalsa -r44100 -p1024 -n2 -D -Chw:0 -Phw:0
> -i2 -o2 -zs
> 
> This is telling me that possibly you have compiled Jack yourself and,
> if that's the case, all bets are sort of off right now in terms of
> what's happening. Try doing (as root)
> 
> updatedb
> slocate jackd | grep bin

Closed Ardour. Now: updatedb  long......wait

[root at S01060050da7307e1 ks]# updatedb
[root at S01060050da7307e1 ks]# slocate jackd | grep bin
/usr/local/bin/jackd
/usr/bin/jackd
[root at S01060050da7307e1 ks]#

Jack O'Quinn responded about this and my answer was one of the posts
that went direct.
I'll paste it here.

Thanks Jack. 
You're obviously correct about 2 versions of your namesake. I did  'find
-name jack* ' and the result is posted below. I don't recall
specifically building a new version of Jack. Is it possible that my
adventures with vstserver caused this to happen?

Anyway, it begs the questions: Which one to keep? How do I get rid of
the other one?


[root at S01060050da7307e1 /]# find -name jack*
./var/lib/jack
./var/cache/man/cat1/jackd.1.bz2
./var/cache/apt/archives/jack-rack_1.4.3-3.rhfc3.ccrma_i386.rpm
./var/cache/apt/archives/jack-audio-connection-
kit_0.99.36-0.3.cvs.rhfc3.ccrma_i386.rpm
./var/cache/apt/archives/jack-audio-connection-kit-example-
clients_0.99.36-0.1.cvs.rhfc3.ccrma_i386.rpm
./var/cache/apt/archives/jack-audio-connection-
kit_0.99.36-0.1.cvs.rhfc3.ccrma_i386.rpm
./var/cache/apt/archives/jack-audio-connection-kit-example-
clients_0.99.36-0.3.cvs.rhfc3.ccrma_i386.rpm
./var/cache/apt/archives/jack-audio-connection-kit-
devel_0.99.36-0.1.cvs.rhfc3.ccrma_i386.rpm
./var/cache/apt/archives/jack-audio-connection-kit-
devel_0.99.36-0.3.cvs.rhfc3.ccrma_i386.rpm
./var/cache/apt/archives/jackeq_0.4.0-1.rhfc3.ccrma_i386.rpm
./var/cache/apt/archives/jackmix_0.0.3-1.rhfc3.ccrma_i386.rpm
./mnt/audio3/jack_fst-1.2.tar.gz
./mnt/audio3/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0.tar.gz
./home/ks/wine/dlls/winmm/winejack/jack.h
./home/ks/wine/dlls/winmm/winejack/jack.c
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-clients/jack_load
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/jack_freewheel
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/jack_simple_client
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_load
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_freewheel
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_simple_client
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_monitor_client
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_impulse_grabber
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-clients/.libs/jackrec
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_connect
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_showtime
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_metro
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_disconnect
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_lsp
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_bufsize
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_transport
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/.libs/jack_unload
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/jack_monitor_client
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/jack_impulse_grabber
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-clients/jackrec
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-clients/jack_connect
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-clients/jack_showtime
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-clients/jack_metro
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/jack_disconnect
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-clients/jack_lsp
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-clients/jack_bufsize
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-
clients/jack_transport
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/example-clients/jack_unload
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/doc/reference/html/jack_8h-
source.html
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.0/doc/reference/html/jack_8h.html
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.0/doc/reference/latex/jack_8h.tex
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.0/drivers/dummy/.libs/jack_dummy.so
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.0/drivers/dummy/.libs/jack_dummy.lai
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.0/drivers/dummy/.libs/jack_dummy.la
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/drivers/dummy/jack_dummy.la
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/drivers/oss/jack_oss.la
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/drivers/oss/.libs/jack_oss.la
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/drivers/oss/.libs/jack_oss.so
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.0/drivers/oss/.libs/jack_oss.lai
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/drivers/alsa/jack_alsa.la
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.0/drivers/alsa/.libs/jack_alsa.la
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.0/drivers/alsa/.libs/jack_alsa.lai
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.0/drivers/alsa/.libs/jack_alsa.so
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/config/os/macosx/jack.xcode
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jack
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jack/jack.h
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd/jackstart.c
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd/.libs/jackd
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd/jackd.1
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd/jackd
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd/jackd.o
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd/jack_md5.h
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd/jackstart.1
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd/jackd.c
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd/.deps/jackd.Po
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd/.deps/jackstart.Po
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jackd/jackd.1.in
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jack.spec
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jack.pc
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jack.pc.in
./home/ks/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0/jack.spec.in
./home/ks/Desktop/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0.tar.gz
find: ./proc/6217/task: No such file or directory
./usr/include/jack
./usr/include/jack/jack.h
./usr/local/include/jack
./usr/local/include/jack/jack.h
./usr/local/man/man1/jackd.1
./usr/local/man/man1/jackstart.1
./usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/jack.pc
./usr/local/lib/jack
./usr/local/lib/jack/jack_oss.la
./usr/local/lib/jack/jack_dummy.so
./usr/local/lib/jack/jack_alsa.la
./usr/local/lib/jack/jack_oss.so
./usr/local/lib/jack/jack_dummy.la
./usr/local/lib/jack/jack_alsa.so
./usr/local/share/jack-audio-connection-kit
./usr/local/share/jack-audio-connection-kit/reference/html/jack_8h-
source.html
./usr/local/share/jack-audio-connection-kit/reference/html/jack_8h.html
./usr/local/bin/jack_load
./usr/local/bin/jack_freewheel
./usr/local/bin/jack_simple_client
./usr/local/bin/jack_monitor_client
./usr/local/bin/jack_impulse_grabber
./usr/local/bin/jackd
./usr/local/bin/jackrec
./usr/local/bin/jack_connect
./usr/local/bin/jack_showtime
./usr/local/bin/jack_metro
./usr/local/bin/jack_disconnect
./usr/local/bin/jack_lsp
./usr/local/bin/jack_bufsize
./usr/local/bin/jack_transport
./usr/local/bin/jack_unload
./usr/lib/pkgconfig/jack.pc
./usr/lib/jack
./usr/lib/jack/jack_oss.la
./usr/lib/jack/jack_dummy.so
./usr/lib/jack/jack_alsa.la
./usr/lib/jack/jack_dummy.a
./usr/lib/jack/jack_alsa.a
./usr/lib/jack/jack_oss.so
./usr/lib/jack/jack_dummy.la
./usr/lib/jack/jack_oss.a
./usr/lib/jack/jack_alsa.so
./usr/lib/galan/plugins/jack.la
./usr/lib/galan/plugins/jack.a
./usr/lib/galan/plugins/jack.so.0
./usr/lib/galan/plugins/jack.so
./usr/lib/galan/plugins/jack.so.0.0.0
./usr/lib/brutefir/jack.bfio
./usr/share/jack-rack
./usr/share/jack-rack/jack-rack-logo.png
./usr/share/doc/jackeq-0.4.0
./usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.36
./usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.36/reference/html/jack_8h-source.html
./usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.36/reference/html/jack_8h.html
./usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-
kit-0.99.36/reference/latex/jack_8h.tex
./usr/share/doc/jack-rack-1.4.3
./usr/share/doc/hydrogen-0.9.1/doc/img/jack_transport.png
./usr/share/hydrogen/manual/img/jack_transport.png
./usr/share/hydrogen/img/playerControlPanel/jackTransportBtn_off.png
./usr/share/hydrogen/img/playerControlPanel/jackTransportBtn_over.png
./usr/share/hydrogen/img/playerControlPanel/jackTransportBtn_on.png
./usr/share/man/man1/jackd.1.gz
./usr/share/man/man1/jackstart.1.gz
./usr/share/jackeq
./usr/share/dtds/jack_rack_1.2.dtd
./usr/share/dtds/jack_rack_1.0.dtd
./usr/share/dtds/jack_rack_1.1.dtd
./usr/share/apps/kappfinder/apps/Multimedia/jack-rack.desktop
./usr/share/galan/sheets/misc/jack-master-seq.gsheet
./usr/share/galan/sheets/experiments/jack-delay.gsheet
./usr/share/galan/sheets/experiments/jack-delay02.gsheet
./usr/share/pixmaps/jack-rack-icon.png
./usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/jack-rack.mo
./usr/bin/jack-rack
./usr/bin/jack_load
./usr/bin/jack_freewheel
./usr/bin/jack_simple_client
./usr/bin/jackeq
./usr/bin/jack_monitor_client
./usr/bin/jack_impulse_grabber
./usr/bin/jackd
./usr/bin/jackrec
./usr/bin/jack_connect
./usr/bin/jack_showtime
./usr/bin/jackmix
./usr/bin/jack_metro
./usr/bin/jack_disconnect
./usr/bin/jack_lsp
./usr/bin/jack_bufsize
./usr/bin/jack_transport
./usr/bin/jackstart
./usr/bin/jack_unload


> 
> Do you have them at both /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin? Something's
> wrong if you do:
> [mark at Godzilla mark]$ slocate jackd | grep bin
> /usr/bin/jackd
> [mark at Godzilla mark]$
> 
> If you have one at /usr/bin then rm /usr/local/bin/jackd and try again.
> 
> 4) If the settings you are using are completely inappropriate for the
> card then jackd itself shoudl tell you, but I believe I hhave seen it
> do this 'cannot connect' thing when it actually didn't like something
> in the command line. Simplify your QJC settings and try again. Maybe
> you'll find out something.
> 
> My bets are on item #3.
> 
> - Mark

Removed /usr/local/bin/jackd
Success!!!!
Qjackctrl started with no grief and Ardour at 44.1
Hey, if I was rich, I'd buy you a new Porsche. But...

Here's the jack messages now:
16:14:09.847 Patchbay deactivated.
16:14:10.109 Statistics reset.
16:14:10.192 MIDI connection graph change.
16:14:10.313 MIDI connection change.
16:14:12.321 Startup script...
16:14:12.322 artsshell -q terminate
16:14:12.586 Startup script terminated with exit status=256.
16:14:12.589 JACK is starting...
16:14:12.590 /usr/bin/jackd -t200 -dalsa -r44100 -p1024 -n2 -D -Chw:0 -
Phw:0 -zs
16:14:12.599 JACK was started with PID=6694 (0x1a26).
jackd 0.99.36
Copyright 2001-2003 Paul Davis and others.
jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
loading driver ..
apparent rate = 44100
creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|
32bit
control device hw:0
configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames, buffer = 2 periods
nperiods = 2 for capture
nperiods = 2 for playback
Noise-shaped dithering at 16 bits
16:14:14.742 Server configuration saved to "/home/ks/.jackdrc".
16:14:14.743 Statistics reset.
16:14:14.748 Client activated.
16:14:14.750 Audio connection change.
16:14:14.753 Audio connection graph change.
16:14:36.635 MIDI connection graph change.
16:14:36.653 MIDI connection change.
16:14:37.104 Audio connection graph change.

I see Paul has asked a question re the sound cards, so I'll get onto
that.
Mark I can't thank you enough for leading me by the hand through this.
(I know it's not all over yet, but this is big breath of fresh air).
You're recent posts about track counts have been a big inspiration to
me. Maybe I can start working toward that now.
THANK YOU!!





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