[Ardour-Dev] portugese (and other) translators .... important question

Rui Nuno Capela rncbc at rncbc.org
Wed Jan 20 02:43:30 PST 2010

off topic indeed,

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:52:30 +0000, Chris Ross wrote:
> On 01/20/2010 09:30 AM, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
>> i tend to agree that portuguese (pt_PT) and brazilian (pt_BR) are two
>> _different_ languages, although sharing one same trunk (archaic xv
>> century
>> portuguese) both forms have been drifting apart on all parameters:
>> lexical,
>> syntactical, grammatical and phonetically. so you cannot say in
>> exactitude that one is just a dialect form of the other. they're
>> different
>> branches already. perhaps, european portuguese (pt_PT) have evolved
>> through
>> modern age ways while brazilian (pt_BR) still is the most resemblant to
>> portuguese as it was spoken 5 centuries ago.
> Getting a bit off topic! Is it /really/ that different to say en_GB and 
> en_US? Personally I don't think so. I also disagree that Brazilian 
> Portuguese has stuck in the C16th. It has evolved significantly, brought

> in many influences (indigenous languages for example) that European 
> Portuguese hasn't. Basically though, the accent is different, spelling 
> is altered somewhat and there are a few different words for the same 
> things. Just like the variants of English in fact.

afaics, excluding phonetics, the english variants don't show differences
in syntax nor in grammar but in orthography only. eg. color vs. colour,
center vs. centre, etc.

although re. pt_PT vs. pt_BR, these differences are rather particular they
are pervasive eg. pronouns and adverbs are used in reverse sentence order,
that being just one of the notable syntactical differences between pt_BR
and pt_PT literacy.

i did not say that brazillian was stuck, but it is not the farthest away
ancient portuguese. it is very common that brazillian people find that
shocking at first hearing, but there's nothing to be ashame of, from either
side of the pond: it's a fact, not a biased opinion ;)

rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rncbc at rncbc.org

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