[Ardour-Users] Re : Ardour-Users Digest, Vol 152, Issue 7

jeanluc.nest at free.fr jeanluc.nest at free.fr
Thu Sep 15 12:46:17 PDT 2016


hi
maybe I'm dreaming, but in a recorded MIDI region, when i try to delete the middle part, shouldnt the events in the third part stay in place ?
part to delete " greyed " with <--> ,  after that : delete

Thanks

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Today's Topics:

  1. Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (jonetsu at teksavvy.com)
  2. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (Paul Davis)
  3. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (jonetsu at teksavvy.com)
  4. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (Gunter K?nigsmann)
  5. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (Joe Hartley)
  6. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise
   (Axel 'the C.L.A.' =?UTF-8?B?TcO8bGxlcg==?=)
  7. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (jonetsu at teksavvy.com)
  8. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (Ralf Mardorf)
  9. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (Gunter K?nigsmann)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:13:29 -0400
From: "jonetsu at teksavvy.com" 
To: "ardour-users at lists.ardour.org" 
Subject: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise
Message-ID: <20160915131329.20142886 at mevla>
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Hello,

When tracks are playing, wiggling with the mouse the right sidebar in
the tracks display back and forth about mid screen rapidly (the sidebar
showing some groups) will provoke crackling noise. Does this mean that
the video subsystem of the machine is not optimized or somewhat
lacking ? Processor is i5 3.40GHz, 16GB RAM, on-board video. Mixbus 32C
3.6.0, 14 tracks, 20 audio plugins.





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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:15:15 -0500
From: Paul Davis 
To: "jonetsu at teksavvy.com" 
Cc: "ardour-users at lists.ardour.org" 
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:13 PM, jonetsu at teksavvy.com <jonetsu at teksavvy.com
> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> When tracks are playing, wiggling with the mouse the right sidebar in
> the tracks display back and forth about mid screen rapidly (the sidebar
> showing some groups) will provoke crackling noise. Does this mean that
> the video subsystem of the machine is not optimized or somewhat
> lacking ? Processor is i5 3.40GHz, 16GB RAM, on-board video. Mixbus 32C
> 3.6.0, 14 tracks, 20 audio plugins.
>

That is definitely the most likely cause. Sometimes it can actually be
electrical noise too (RF between video and audio interfaces)
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:30:04 -0400
From: "jonetsu at teksavvy.com" 
To: "ardour-users at lists.ardour.org" 
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise
Message-ID: <20160915133004.2eb7e4da at mevla>
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:15:15 -0500
Paul Davis  wrote:

> That is definitely the most likely cause. Sometimes it can actually be
> electrical noise too (RF between video and audio interfaces)

Is it recommended to have a dedicated graphic processor instead of
using the one provided on the mobo ? Are professional setups using a
distinct graphics card ?




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:34:51 +0200
From: Gunter K?nigsmann 
To: ardour-users at lists.ardour.org,	"jonetsu at teksavvy.com"
	
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise
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Am 15. September 2016 19:30:04 MESZ, schrieb "jonetsu at teksavvy.com" :
>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:15:15 -0500
>Paul Davis  wrote:
>
>> That is definitely the most likely cause. Sometimes it can actually
>be
>> electrical noise too (RF between video and audio interfaces)
>
>Is it recommended to have a dedicated graphic processor instead of
>using the one provided on the mobo ? Are professional setups using a
>distinct graphics card ?
>
>
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I have bought an external Sound Card instead: if it is 1m distant from the computer and not directly connected to the motherboard with many pins there is a good possibility to make its power supply quite silent. It wasn't really cheap, though...
-- 
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:20 -0400
From: Joe Hartley 
To: ardour-users at lists.ardour.org
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise
Message-ID: <20160915133820.cfd1ba50cfb6bede2cd8597c at brainiac.com>
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:30:04 -0400
"jonetsu at teksavvy.com"  wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:15:15 -0500
> Paul Davis  wrote:
> 
> > That is definitely the most likely cause. Sometimes it can actually be
> > electrical noise too (RF between video and audio interfaces)
> 
> Is it recommended to have a dedicated graphic processor instead of
> using the one provided on the mobo ? Are professional setups using a
> distinct graphics card ?

I just tried this on my system and could not replicate it at all in
Mixbus 3.6 with either my Delta 1010 nor my firewire mixer. I have a
separate GPU, which I think is pretty standard these days, especially for
multiple monitors. I can easily see an onboard video chip affecting 
an onboard audio interface; you didn't mention what you're using for that.

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:58:19 +0200
From: "Axel 'the C.L.A.' =?UTF-8?B?TcO8bGxlcg==?="
	
To: ardour-users at lists.ardour.org
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise
Message-ID: <20160915195819.dc5d54f987148038f0e139ed at web.de>
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:30:04 -0400
"jonetsu at teksavvy.com"  wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:15:15 -0500
> Paul Davis  wrote:
> 
> > That is definitely the most likely cause. Sometimes it can actually be
> > electrical noise too (RF between video and audio interfaces)
> 
> Is it recommended to have a dedicated graphic processor instead of
> using the one provided on the mobo ? Are professional setups using a
> distinct graphics card ?

I think it would be important to determine where the crackle stems from.

Is it caused by xruns or possibly RF like Paul suggested.

I sometimes tend to get a little bit of RF noise with my external USB
soundcard as well - need to experiment with grounding, possibly.

Other than that I have less trouble with the Intel onboard graphics on
the laptop than the dedicated Radeon graphics (with open source
drivers) on the desktop.



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:02:36 -0400
From: "jonetsu at teksavvy.com" 
To: ardour-users at lists.ardour.org
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise
Message-ID: <20160915140236.66c3385d at mevla>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:20 -0400
Joe Hartley  wrote:

> I just tried this on my system and could not replicate it at all in
> Mixbus 3.6 with either my Delta 1010 nor my firewire mixer. I have a
> separate GPU, which I think is pretty standard these days, especially
> for multiple monitors. I can easily see an onboard video chip
> affecting an onboard audio interface; you didn't mention what you're
> using for that.

The audio interface is a 1010LT. The mouse is a wireless Logitech
trackball (if RF transmissions are part of the problem...). 

Might be absurd to mention this, but on top of the tower case rests a
Japanese tea water warmer that's constantly on.





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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:22:44 +0200
From: Ralf Mardorf 
To: ardour-users at lists.ardour.org
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise
Message-ID: <20160915202244.01abe4e7 at archlinux.localdomain>
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:02:36 -0400, jonetsu at teksavvy.com wrote:
>Might be absurd to mention this, but on top of the tower case rests a
>Japanese tea water warmer that's constantly on.

And a toaster on the bathtub seam, too?

SICR

If it should cause AF, RF or magnetic whatsoever issues, then not only
when "wiggling with the mouse the right sidebar".

Regards,
Ralf


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:26:23 +0200
From: Gunter K?nigsmann 
To: "jonetsu at teksavvy.com" ,	ardour-users
	
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise
Message-ID: <6c408bdb-79ea-32b5-19dc-d3f674729354 at peterpall.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

It can be everything: RF transmission from the trackball would be a good
guess. Tea warners often regulate the temperature by abrupty turning on
and off the heat, every time generating a tiny . In my old
computer it was the CPU, not the graphics card. If you gave it a big
task for a millisecond and then let it wait for another and so on you
would have a beeping noise in the speakers and also in my FM radio
standing 2 meter away from it.
When I still didn't have a flatscreen there was also tempest for eliza
that used my tube monitor as AM+FM transmitter.

Kind regards,

 Gunter.

On 15.09.2016 20:02, jonetsu at teksavvy.com wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:20 -0400
> Joe Hartley  wrote:
> 
>> I just tried this on my system and could not replicate it at all in
>> Mixbus 3.6 with either my Delta 1010 nor my firewire mixer. I have a
>> separate GPU, which I think is pretty standard these days, especially
>> for multiple monitors. I can easily see an onboard video chip
>> affecting an onboard audio interface; you didn't mention what you're
>> using for that.
> 
> The audio interface is a 1010LT. The mouse is a wireless Logitech
> trackball (if RF transmissions are part of the problem...). 
> 
> Might be absurd to mention this, but on top of the tower case rests a
> Japanese tea water warmer that's constantly on.
> 
> 
> 
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