<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;}</style></head><body>hi<br>maybe I'm dreaming, but in a recorded MIDI region, when i try to delete the middle part, shouldnt the events in the third part stay in place ?<br>part to delete " greyed " with <--> , after that : delete<br><br>Thanks<br><br>----- Mail d'origine -----<br>De: ardour-users-request@lists.ardour.org<br>À: ardour-users@lists.ardour.org<br>Envoyé: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:26:29 +0200 (CEST)<br>Objet: Ardour-Users Digest, Vol 152, Issue 6<br><br>Send Ardour-Users mailing list submissions to<br> ardour-users@lists.ardour.org<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-users-ardour.org<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> ardour-users-request@lists.ardour.org<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> ardour-users-owner@lists.ardour.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Ardour-Users digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (jonetsu@teksavvy.com)<br> 2. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (Paul Davis)<br> 3. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (jonetsu@teksavvy.com)<br> 4. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (Gunter K?nigsmann)<br> 5. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (Joe Hartley)<br> 6. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise<br> (Axel 'the C.L.A.' =?UTF-8?B?TcO8bGxlcg==?=)<br> 7. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (jonetsu@teksavvy.com)<br> 8. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (Ralf Mardorf)<br> 9. Re: Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise (Gunter K?nigsmann)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:13:29 -0400<br>From: "jonetsu@teksavvy.com" <jonetsu@teksavvy.com><br>To: "ardour-users@lists.ardour.org" <ardour-users@lists.ardour.org><br>Subject: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise<br>Message-ID: <20160915131329.20142886@mevla><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br><br>Hello,<br><br>When tracks are playing, wiggling with the mouse the right sidebar in<br>the tracks display back and forth about mid screen rapidly (the sidebar<br>showing some groups) will provoke crackling noise. Does this mean that<br>the video subsystem of the machine is not optimized or somewhat<br>lacking ? Processor is i5 3.40GHz, 16GB RAM, on-board video. Mixbus 32C<br>3.6.0, 14 tracks, 20 audio plugins.<br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:15:15 -0500<br>From: Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com><br>To: "jonetsu@teksavvy.com" <jonetsu@teksavvy.com><br>Cc: "ardour-users@lists.ardour.org" <ardour-users@lists.ardour.org><br>Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise<br>Message-ID:<br> <cafa_ckkuuobfd+_5f9i7eqqw_bro_p9m92rz-gj6pm22=ue21w@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:13 PM, jonetsu@teksavvy.com <jonetsu@teksavvy.com<br>> wrote:<br><br>> Hello,<br>><br>> When tracks are playing, wiggling with the mouse the right sidebar in<br>> the tracks display back and forth about mid screen rapidly (the sidebar<br>> showing some groups) will provoke crackling noise. Does this mean that<br>> the video subsystem of the machine is not optimized or somewhat<br>> lacking ? Processor is i5 3.40GHz, 16GB RAM, on-board video. Mixbus 32C<br>> 3.6.0, 14 tracks, 20 audio plugins.<br>><br><br>That is definitely the most likely cause. Sometimes it can actually be<br>electrical noise too (RF between video and audio interfaces)<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http: lists.ardour.org="" pipermail="" ardour-users-ardour.org="" attachments="" 20160915="" d0a97304="" attachment-0001.htm=""><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:30:04 -0400<br>From: "jonetsu@teksavvy.com" <jonetsu@teksavvy.com><br>To: "ardour-users@lists.ardour.org" <ardour-users@lists.ardour.org><br>Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise<br>Message-ID: <20160915133004.2eb7e4da@mevla><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br><br>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:15:15 -0500<br>Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:<br><br>> That is definitely the most likely cause. Sometimes it can actually be<br>> electrical noise too (RF between video and audio interfaces)<br><br>Is it recommended to have a dedicated graphic processor instead of<br>using the one provided on the mobo ? Are professional setups using a<br>distinct graphics card ?<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:34:51 +0200<br>From: Gunter K?nigsmann <gunter@peterpall.de><br>To: ardour-users@lists.ardour.org, "jonetsu@teksavvy.com"<br> <jonetsu@teksavvy.com><br>Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise<br>Message-ID: <53ECEDDE-AA32-4B10-AA3A-2BA6C1CD3F5C@peterpall.de><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br><br>Am 15. September 2016 19:30:04 MESZ, schrieb "jonetsu@teksavvy.com" <jonetsu@teksavvy.com>:<br>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:15:15 -0500<br>>Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:<br>><br>>> That is definitely the most likely cause. Sometimes it can actually<br>>be<br>>> electrical noise too (RF between video and audio interfaces)<br>><br>>Is it recommended to have a dedicated graphic processor instead of<br>>using the one provided on the mobo ? Are professional setups using a<br>>distinct graphics card ?<br>><br>><br>>_______________________________________________<br>>Ardour-Users mailing list<br>>ardour-users@lists.ardour.org<br>>To unsubscribe or change your mailing preferences please visit:<br>>http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-users-ardour.org<br><br>I have bought an external Sound Card instead: if it is 1m distant from the computer and not directly connected to the motherboard with many pins there is a good possibility to make its power supply quite silent. It wasn't really cheap, though...<br>-- <br>Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Ger?t mit K-9 Mail gesendet.<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:20 -0400<br>From: Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com><br>To: ardour-users@lists.ardour.org<br>Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise<br>Message-ID: <20160915133820.cfd1ba50cfb6bede2cd8597c@brainiac.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br><br>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:30:04 -0400<br>"jonetsu@teksavvy.com" <jonetsu@teksavvy.com> wrote:<br><br>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:15:15 -0500<br>> Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > That is definitely the most likely cause. Sometimes it can actually be<br>> > electrical noise too (RF between video and audio interfaces)<br>> <br>> Is it recommended to have a dedicated graphic processor instead of<br>> using the one provided on the mobo ? Are professional setups using a<br>> distinct graphics card ?<br><br>I just tried this on my system and could not replicate it at all in<br>Mixbus 3.6 with either my Delta 1010 nor my firewire mixer. I have a<br>separate GPU, which I think is pretty standard these days, especially for<br>multiple monitors. I can easily see an onboard video chip affecting <br>an onboard audio interface; you didn't mention what you're using for that.<br><br>-- <br>======================================================================<br> Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh@brainiac.com<br> Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:58:19 +0200<br>From: "Axel 'the C.L.A.' =?UTF-8?B?TcO8bGxlcg==?="<br> <axel-mueller-74@web.de><br>To: ardour-users@lists.ardour.org<br>Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise<br>Message-ID: <20160915195819.dc5d54f987148038f0e139ed@web.de><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br><br>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:30:04 -0400<br>"jonetsu@teksavvy.com" <jonetsu@teksavvy.com> wrote:<br><br>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:15:15 -0500<br>> Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > That is definitely the most likely cause. Sometimes it can actually be<br>> > electrical noise too (RF between video and audio interfaces)<br>> <br>> Is it recommended to have a dedicated graphic processor instead of<br>> using the one provided on the mobo ? Are professional setups using a<br>> distinct graphics card ?<br><br>I think it would be important to determine where the crackle stems from.<br><br>Is it caused by xruns or possibly RF like Paul suggested.<br><br>I sometimes tend to get a little bit of RF noise with my external USB<br>soundcard as well - need to experiment with grounding, possibly.<br><br>Other than that I have less trouble with the Intel onboard graphics on<br>the laptop than the dedicated Radeon graphics (with open source<br>drivers) on the desktop.<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 7<br>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:02:36 -0400<br>From: "jonetsu@teksavvy.com" <jonetsu@teksavvy.com><br>To: ardour-users@lists.ardour.org<br>Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise<br>Message-ID: <20160915140236.66c3385d@mevla><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br><br>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:20 -0400<br>Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com> wrote:<br><br>> I just tried this on my system and could not replicate it at all in<br>> Mixbus 3.6 with either my Delta 1010 nor my firewire mixer. I have a<br>> separate GPU, which I think is pretty standard these days, especially<br>> for multiple monitors. I can easily see an onboard video chip<br>> affecting an onboard audio interface; you didn't mention what you're<br>> using for that.<br><br>The audio interface is a 1010LT. The mouse is a wireless Logitech<br>trackball (if RF transmissions are part of the problem...). <br><br>Might be absurd to mention this, but on top of the tower case rests a<br>Japanese tea water warmer that's constantly on.<br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 8<br>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:22:44 +0200<br>From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net><br>To: ardour-users@lists.ardour.org<br>Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise<br>Message-ID: <20160915202244.01abe4e7@archlinux.localdomain><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br><br>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:02:36 -0400, jonetsu@teksavvy.com wrote:<br>>Might be absurd to mention this, but on top of the tower case rests a<br>>Japanese tea water warmer that's constantly on.<br><br>And a toaster on the bathtub seam, too?<br><br>SICR<br><br>If it should cause AF, RF or magnetic whatsoever issues, then not only<br>when "wiggling with the mouse the right sidebar".<br><br>Regards,<br>Ralf<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 9<br>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:26:23 +0200<br>From: Gunter K?nigsmann <gunter@peterpall.de><br>To: "jonetsu@teksavvy.com" <jonetsu@teksavvy.com>, ardour-users<br> <ardour-users@lists.ardour.org><br>Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Wiggling the sidebar: crackling noise<br>Message-ID: <6c408bdb-79ea-32b5-19dc-d3f674729354@peterpall.de><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252<br><br>It can be everything: RF transmission from the trackball would be a good<br>guess. Tea warners often regulate the temperature by abrupty turning on<br>and off the heat, every time generating a tiny <plopp>. In my old<br>computer it was the CPU, not the graphics card. If you gave it a big<br>task for a millisecond and then let it wait for another and so on you<br>would have a beeping noise in the speakers and also in my FM radio<br>standing 2 meter away from it.<br>When I still didn't have a flatscreen there was also tempest for eliza<br>that used my tube monitor as AM+FM transmitter.<br><br>Kind regards,<br><br> Gunter.<br><br>On 15.09.2016 20:02, jonetsu@teksavvy.com wrote:<br>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:20 -0400<br>> Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com> wrote:<br>> <br>>> I just tried this on my system and could not replicate it at all in<br>>> Mixbus 3.6 with either my Delta 1010 nor my firewire mixer. I have a<br>>> separate GPU, which I think is pretty standard these days, especially<br>>> for multiple monitors. I can easily see an onboard video chip<br>>> affecting an onboard audio interface; you didn't mention what you're<br>>> using for that.<br>> <br>> The audio interface is a 1010LT. The mouse is a wireless Logitech<br>> trackball (if RF transmissions are part of the problem...). <br>> <br>> Might be absurd to mention this, but on top of the tower case rests a<br>> Japanese tea water warmer that's constantly on.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Ardour-Users mailing list<br>> ardour-users@lists.ardour.org<br>> To unsubscribe or change your mailing preferences please visit:<br>> http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-users-ardour.org<br>> <br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Subject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ardour-Users mailing list<br>ardour-users@lists.ardour.org<br>To unsubscribe or change your mailing preferences please visit:<br>http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-users-ardour.org<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>End of Ardour-Users Digest, Vol 152, Issue 6<br>********************************************<br><br></jh@brainiac.com></plopp></ardour-users@lists.ardour.org></jonetsu@teksavvy.com></gunter@peterpall.de></ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net></jh@brainiac.com></jonetsu@teksavvy.com></paul@linuxaudiosystems.com></jonetsu@teksavvy.com></axel-mueller-74@web.de></paul@linuxaudiosystems.com></jonetsu@teksavvy.com></jh@brainiac.com></paul@linuxaudiosystems.com></jonetsu@teksavvy.com></jonetsu@teksavvy.com></gunter@peterpall.de></paul@linuxaudiosystems.com></ardour-users@lists.ardour.org></jonetsu@teksavvy.com></http:></jonetsu@teksavvy.com<br></cafa_ckkuuobfd+_5f9i7eqqw_bro_p9m92rz-gj6pm22=ue21w@mail.gmail.com></ardour-users@lists.ardour.org></jonetsu@teksavvy.com></paul@linuxaudiosystems.com></ardour-users@lists.ardour.org></jonetsu@teksavvy.com></body></html>