[Ardour-Users] High number of crashes

Paul Davis paul at linuxaudiosystems.com
Mon Aug 24 19:48:25 PDT 2015

Speaking frankly, as a host developer, the entire concept of plugins
is really a very disturbing one. Loading arbitrary random bits of
executable code into a large, complex program as part of an extension
mechanism is an idea that only the proprietary software development
world could dream up.

It is a necessary evil that we live with, but users need to be clear
that the basic idea is really totally broken. In a better world, all
plugin source code would be accessible and inspectable, just as the
code for ardour (and qtractor, and non) is

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:42 PM, jonetsu at teksavvy.com
<jonetsu at teksavvy.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:19:33 +1200
> Lukas Pirl <ardour at lukas-pirl.de> wrote:
>> What kind of disk is it, what file system do you use, how full is it?
>> If it's BTRFS:
>> I experienced, that e.g. BTRFS can get very slow on full disks (esp.
>> for writes). Also, for non-SSD disks, not having the "autodefrag"
>> mount option can result in a fragmented file system over the time.
>> Also, some kernel versions have known glitches since the file system
>> driver is still a moving target.
> It does not make sense.  I mean, it does not make sense that the disk
> lags at reading data at start up.  If it were, then there would be
> apparent problems in many other instances.  It is ext4 and it is a
> regular hard disk, Western Digital I think, not a SSD disk.  For years
> of software development with embedded devices and others, my "inner
> ear" is suspicious.  Odds are rather against the Ardour/plug-ins setup
> than the hardware itself.
> Wouldn't it be great if there was a "plug-ins police" ?  Some kind of
> QA assurance specification that every audio plug-in should get
> through.  This would benefit everyone.  It is a bummer to create with
> the back of the mind thinking that this software might crash.  Although
> to reassure said back of the mind, Ardour has not lost any data so
> far.  At worst, a track has to be redone.  Surely, Ctrl-S is pressed
> much more often !
> Tschüß !
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