[Ardour-Users] High number of crashes

jonetsu at teksavvy.com jonetsu at teksavvy.com
Mon Aug 24 19:53:52 PDT 2015


On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:48:25 -0400
Paul Davis <paul at linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:

> Speaking frankly, as a host developer, the entire concept of plugins
> is really a very disturbing one. Loading arbitrary random bits of
> executable code into a large, complex program as part of an extension
> mechanism is an idea that only the proprietary software development
> world could dream up.
> 
> It is a necessary evil that we live with, but users need to be clear
> that the basic idea is really totally broken. In a better world, all
> plugin source code would be accessible and inspectable, just as the
> code for ardour (and qtractor, and non) is
> 
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:42 PM, jonetsu at teksavvy.com
> <jonetsu at teksavvy.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:19:33 +1200
> > Lukas Pirl <ardour at lukas-pirl.de> wrote:
> >
> >> What kind of disk is it, what file system do you use, how full is
> >> it?
> >>
> >> If it's BTRFS:
> >>
> >> I experienced, that e.g. BTRFS can get very slow on full disks
> >> (esp. for writes). Also, for non-SSD disks, not having the
> >> "autodefrag" mount option can result in a fragmented file system
> >> over the time. Also, some kernel versions have known glitches
> >> since the file system driver is still a moving target.
> >
> > It does not make sense.  I mean, it does not make sense that the
> > disk lags at reading data at start up.  If it were, then there
> > would be apparent problems in many other instances.  It is ext4 and
> > it is a regular hard disk, Western Digital I think, not a SSD
> > disk.  For years of software development with embedded devices and
> > others, my "inner ear" is suspicious.  Odds are rather against the
> > Ardour/plug-ins setup than the hardware itself.
> >
> > Wouldn't it be great if there was a "plug-ins police" ?  Some kind
> > of QA assurance specification that every audio plug-in should get
> > through.  This would benefit everyone.  It is a bummer to create
> > with the back of the mind thinking that this software might crash.
> > Although to reassure said back of the mind, Ardour has not lost any
> > data so far.  At worst, a track has to be redone.  Surely, Ctrl-S
> > is pressed much more often !
> >
> > Tschüß !
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