[Ardour-Users] A3: Silence and session load weirdness after re-open

Paul Davis paul at linuxaudiosystems.com
Wed Apr 24 06:15:57 PDT 2013

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Q <lists at quirq.ukfsn.org> wrote:

> On 24/04/13 13:40, Paul Davis wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Q <lists at quirq.ukfsn.org
>> <mailto:lists at quirq.ukfsn.org>**> wrote:
>>     On 24/04/13 13:20, Paul Davis wrote:
>>         On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Axel 'the C.L.A.' Müller
>>              As I proposed in Q's report I would prefer a popup on
>>         creation that
>>              asks if the loop was created intentionally. Also sends (at
>>         least in the
>>              case of a loop) should be created with the level set to -inf.
>>         what level? its a loop ....
>>     In my case the feedback loop was created between two busses using a
>>     Send.
>> no, it wasn't.
>> the send is one component in the loop. there are two. both of them have
>> levels associated with them. remove either one and there is no loop. why
>> is the send special?
> Okay, if you're going to be smart-arsed about it, there were two sends

I'm not trying to be smart arsed. There are often more complexities to
these things than users realize, that's all.

-- I couldn't remember whether I'd used a send from Bus 1 to Bus 2 or just
> hooked the output of Bus 1 directly to the input of Bus 2, in addition to
> the send from Bus 2 to Bus 1 which closed a loop.

it would make no difference: there are still two connections that are
involved in forming the fhe loop, and they both have levels associated with
them. i can see no reason or method for ardour to identify one of them as
the one that "creates" the loop other than order of creation. this is not
possible to determine when loading the session, so if you had readjusted
the -inf level to some other value, ardour has no way of understanding what
to do at session load time.
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