[Ardour-Users] Made with Ardour

Jörn Nettingsmeier nettings at stackingdwarves.net
Thu May 26 23:36:48 PDT 2011

On 05/27/2011 01:08 AM, Jason Jones wrote:
>> liked it. i mean it's not my favourite kind of music these days, but it
>> reminds me of stuff i listened to 15 years ago.
>> the song and the mix are definitely happening.
>> the limiter annoys me from time to time, but i've heard worse. is that just
>> the mixbus saturation?
> Thank you!  I did use mixbus on this one, and the saturation was close
> to "0" on all my mixbuses (sp?).  I'm still learning how to properly
> employ the limiter in the mastering phase.  When I use ardour, I use
> jamin to master, with the limiter on, and I can get the loudness up
> pretty high.  The master limiter on mixbus seems to be set very low.
> No matter how much I squash it, the "loudness" never gets to where I
> want it to be.   When I turn the limiter completely off, however, I'm
> able to get it much louder, and it doesn't seem to clip at all (I read
> somewhere it has to do with floating point capabilities?).

well, not really. ardour/jack uses floats internally, which means yes, 
you could get your master as "loud" as you want at any point in the 
signal chain, but as soon as you move on to a non-float medium such as a 
cd, or feed the signal to your d/a converters, then you *must* be within 
-1.0..1.0, otherwise there will be clipping.

so, cranking up a float signal doesn't really buy you anything, 
certainly not in terms of perceptual loudness at a given maximum peak value.

thanks again for posting this song, it was very instructive to pick and 
listen to - gives me an idea what mixbus can do (haven't tried it myself 



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