[Ardour-Users] click free editing and zero crossings?

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Thu May 20 13:12:37 PDT 2010

Lamar Owen wrote:
> Crossfades don't have to cause phasing if you're careful.

It takes around 60 seconds to do another take and around 60 minutes to 
do the perfect, non-phasing cut ;).

> Nope; I've done a number of edits of my own voice that I cannot hear, and I 
> know exactly when to listen for the edit.
> I've also edited the dialog of people who are now deceased; there are no do-
> overs possible, and it is nice to be able to take out coughs, sneezes, hacks, 
> and the like.  And in my case I also edit for length; taking out quiet 
> portions, taking out inhales (I have a raspy inhale, unfortunately), sniffles, 
> etc, are all part of my weekly edit session for my radio broadcast.

We all will die, we all aren't perfect. That's natural!

>> Btw. goof is part of a composition. 
> Nope; goof is part of the performance, but not part of the composition :-).

Yesno ;), but more yes :). Pardon, you are right! But I'm sure you know 
what I mean, even if my English is terribly broken ;).
Fuck the composition and enjoy the performance.

>> Does AutoTune make vocals more
>> pleasant, because they are perfectly tuned? 
> It depends upon the desired effect, I guess.  Never used AutoTune myself, nor 
> am I fond of the vocoder-on-steroids sound it creates, but some seem to like 
> it.

IOW ;), ok, there's nothing wrong to use AutoTune for artistically 
minded expression. Hm? How much of the music you're listening to, does 
use AutoTune for artistically minded expression ;). And why don't you 
use it yourself ;).

>> Stop editing, keep mistakes
>> or play it again!
> Nope, ain't a gonna happen.  Even in the tape days people edited, and it's a 
> simple fact of life in the audio world, whether we like it or not.

Correct, I'm in the age of 43 and I'm a professional audio engineer 
since I'm 16 years old. I DID, DO AND WILL EDIT IN THE FUTURE, but at 
the moment common editing is carried to excess.

You are able to "edit" or to "edit excessively" ;).

Everything you wrote is plausible, but I'm sure that you know what I'm 
talking about :p.


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