[ardour-users] Fw: Surround Sound Mixing

Aaron Trumm aaron at nquit.com
Thu Mar 23 15:19:44 PST 2006


yeah this is really helpful - I'm doing 8 channel mixes here at CCRMA
and next i'm going to want to translate them to 5.1...i didn't exactly
know where to start...

thanks :)

On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 16:23 +0000, Stephen West wrote:
> It's a pleasure. I've only done it for a personal hobby not anything
> commercial, but I'm sure the principles are the same.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Stephen
>  
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: Thomas G. Willis 
>         To: ardour-users-ardour.org at lists.ardour.org 
>         Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:07 PM
>         Subject: Re: [ardour-users] Fw: Surround Sound Mixing
>         
>         
>         Hey Stephen thanks that gives me enough info to help my friend
>         to see if it's indeeed possible with his hardware. he has an
>         ac3 encoder and all that, and I'd love to figure out how to do
>         this myself anyway.
>         
>         
>         Thanks very much. 
>         
>         
>         On 3/23/06, Stephen West <stephenwest1 at lineone.net> wrote: 
>                 Hello Thomas,
>                  
>                 I'm starting to do some work with 5.1 mixing. I'm no
>                 expert but I've got it working for me.
>                  
>                 I create 5 busses called 'Left', 'Centre', 'Right',
>                 etc. I cound that creating a master bus with six
>                 channels didn't work for me as the sound directed to
>                 one channel would leak into another channel and could
>                 be heard from somewhere you didn't want. Also, you
>                 can't automate the panning for six channels.
>                  
>                 I run ac3jack (http://essej.net/ac3jack/) and connect
>                 with JACK, the 'Left' bus to the AC3Jack 'Left'
>                 channel, etc. I can then output via the optical output
>                 to my surround sound decoder. As far as I can see
>                 AC3Jack is legal in the UK but I'm not sure about
>                 elsewhere, owing to Intellectual Property laws. If you
>                 didn't want to use AC3Jack you could buy a six channel
>                 card and output to six speakers instead, connecting
>                 your busses to the relevant outputs of the card.
>                  
>                 I create the sound effect in a track and output to the
>                 relevant bus, e.g., Left or Right, etc., or more than
>                 one bus if required.
>                  
>                 AC3Jack will also let you create a final AC3 file so
>                 you can then add the sound output to a DVD as Dolby
>                 Digital.
>                  
>                 I'm not sure if my way is the best way. Perhaps others
>                 have a better solution but it works for me.
>                  
>                 I hope that helps,
>                  
>                 Stephen
>                  
>                  
>                  
>                 ----- Original Message ----- 
>                 From: Thomas G. Willis 
>                 To: ardour-users-ardour.org at lists.ardour.org 
>                 Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:49 PM
>                 Subject: [ardour-users] Surround Sound Mixing
>                 
>                 
>                 OK, #1 I have no clue about this stuff and what's
>                 involved. #2 I have a friend that is doing fairly well
>                 for himself doing sound work for movies and is somehow
>                 doing surround  mixing outside of pro-tools.
>                 
>                 Basically he asked me if surround mixing is possible
>                 in ardour because he doesn't want to upgrade to the
>                 uber expensive protools version that allows him to do
>                 that. 
>                 
>                 I did a bit of research and came to the conclusion
>                 that it's either theoretically possible or a feature
>                 that isn't stable yet.
>                 
>                 So, I'm hoping someone on this list can  let me know
>                 that it is indeed possible. 
>                 
>                 I saw that you can choose from 5 to 8 outputs in
>                 mastering and I can assume that that would work for
>                 surround but without anyway for me to test this myself
>                 I'm wondering how one would route a track to the
>                 subwoofer vs the center channel vs the front r/l vs
>                 rear r/l. 
>                 
>                  
>                 Appologies in advance if this is all insanely stupid
>                 questions. 
>                 -- 
>                 Thomas G. Willis
>                 -----------------------------------------------
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>                 http://tomwillis.sonicdiscord.com
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