[Ardour-Dev] Development Summary (5.8..ba24f287ca)

Jörn Nettingsmeier nettings at stackingdwarves.net
Thu May 4 02:10:19 PDT 2017


On 05/03/2017 11:51 PM, Robin Gareus wrote:
> On 05/03/2017 10:03 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
>> On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 07:42:09PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
>>
>>>> - Use Shift key to enable group when moving Fader with group disabled.
>>>
>>> Sorry to have to ask, but is the inverse also possible? Because that
>>> is the standard usecase. I know I want my drum tracks to gang, but
>>> then I realise the hihat is too soft, so <mod>-click and correct.
>>> Having the "turn group on temporary" modifier seems a bit pointless to me.
>
> Did you actually try it? It sounds like what you describe is exactly
> what Ardour-git does.
>
> Shift+Drag on a fader *inverts* the group setting. Enable disabled
> groups and disable enabled groups.
>
> What's arguable is that the effective state is inverted. e.g. When a
> group is enabled, but the group is configured to not share gain,
> Shift+Drag also enables gain-sharing.

Ah, thanks for the explanation, no, I was unaware of this. I guess I can 
live with that "inversion", it might be useful for some people during 
mixing (as in, you usually want to control each fader individually, but 
then at some point you want all the woodwinds a bit louder...)

>> The same goes for exclusive solo: clicking a solo button with shift
>> should override that so you can solo two or more channels without
>> have to change the 'solo mode'.

Nice. That one is also news to me.

> Shift+Click Solo toggles Solo-isolate, Ctrl+Click overrides group on
> Solo + Mute.

Would it be possible to make this consistent? As in, use the same 
modifier for group behaviour as with the faders?

>> BTW, 5.8 still reconnects auditioner and click to system ports
>> even if the session was saved without those connections. That's
>> a very old one.
>
> Indeed, "empty" port-name for those means "use defaults". Unless you
> audition or enable the metronome it won't play anything on these ports.
>
> It's intentional and not a bug. It's a lot more inconvenient if they're
> not connected to anything.

Arguable. I don't like autoconnect at all, but I see how you would have 
to do it for a reasonable initial user experience, otherwise people will 
just walk away... I guess people who don't want that will have to 
connect it to something else that doesn't interfere with production 
signal paths.




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