[Ardour-Dev] a3: Various feedback

Patrick Shirkey pshirkey at boosthardware.com
Tue Nov 2 23:56:16 PDT 2010

On Tue, November 2, 2010 9:01 am, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>> Hi,
> Hi,
> Thanks for the reports.
>> Here's some feedback from using the latest svn version of ardour3. You
>> probably are aware of most of these already but I'm not sure how many
>> people are reporting these issues atm.
> [snip]
>> 4: Cannot copy and paste multiple regions without them getting
>> overlapped.
> http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=3517
> [snip]
>> 6: Have seen some of my automation settings get dropped between crashes.
>> Results in some wasted time but not a major hassle as it is pretty
>> obvious
>> when they are missing. The actual result is the curve gets set to zero
>> for
>> some reason. Would be a major hassle on fiddly sections with a lot of
>> work
>> done on them. Suggest this could be a priority bug.
> How do you mean "between crashes"?

Well for various reasons I have been able to crash a3 here. So far this
has actually only happened once. IIRC it was after I switched workspaces
and pressed play in a relatively quick succession.

>> 7: Accidentally duplicating a very large number of regions caused some
>> strange behaviour after the duplication process was finished. Restarting
>> then deleting the regions fixed the issue.
> Do you know roughly how many regions you duplicated?  What was the
> `strange behaviour'?

I duplicated a region around 80 times and then while all the duplicate
regions were still selected I accidentally duplicated another 40 times. It
took a while to complete the action. After that things didn't work very
well so I deleted all the duplicate regions and started again.

>> 8: Start and End points are not always saved between crashes. Minor
>> hassle.
>> 9: Cannot stretched and already stretched region. That one was a little
>> confusing. Maybe a popup would help there.
> I can't reproduce this: can you give an exact sequence of steps to
> reproduce it?

I created a region from a larger region with "s". Then I copied the region
to a new track, stretched the region and copied it again. I cannot stretch
the final copy.

>> 10: Had some funky behaviour with the select/copy tool which doesn't
>> seem
>> to have any real logic. Comes and goes between sessions. Hard to
>> replicate
>> and confusing to workaround.
> Which tool do you mean by `select/copy'?  Can you give any examples of
> this `funky behaviour'?

Sorry, it's the "select/move objects" tools. Basically they don't always
select or move. It's hard to reproduce but it does happen occasionally.
When it starts it seems to continue for a while and it is hard to get out
of. It seems to be related to or triggered by using the gain tool for some

I also spotted a display error with a lot of tiny duplicated regions at
the end of the track. Screenshot attached.


Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd.

"ZPE is not about creating something from nothing: It is about using the
zero point of a wave as a means to transform other forms of potential
energy like magnetic flux, heat, or particle spin into usable energy in
such a way that entropy appears to be reversed."
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