[Ardour-Dev] Ardour conversation on CEC

Hector Centeno hcengar at gmail.com
Tue Mar 31 21:38:16 PDT 2009


Hello,

I guess that other individual was me. It was about adding an
"automation follows region" option. This was added to the unreleased
Ardour3 (I tested it and found it working properly). I also encourage
others to try the bounty system through Ardours's mantis:
http://tracker.ardour.org


Cheers,

Hector


2009/3/31 Thomas Vecchione <seablaede at gmail.com>:
> Max-
>
>   Actually the one complaint I see listed there is already being addressed I
> believe in Ardour3.  I haven't tested it myself yet, but myself and one
> other individual put a bounty on the issue which was subsequently patched in
> Ardour3.  So it is a known issue, but if you could forward that along, along
> with information about the ability to put a financial bounty on issues they
> would like to see fixed/improved/introduced I won't complain.
>
>        Seablade
>
> 2009/3/31 Max Stein <maxwell.stein at gmail.com>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Ardour has been brought up as a topic of discussion on the Canadian
>> Electroacoustic Community listserv. There have been two comments about
>> difficulties in working with automation (copying/pasting). The entire
>> conversation can be read below.
>>
>> Best,
>> Max
>>
>> Forwarded conversation
>> Subject: Ardour
>> ------------------------
>>
>> From: Hinkle-Turner, Elizabeth <ehinkle at unt.edu>
>> Date: Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM
>> To: "cec-conference at concordia.ca" <cec-conference at concordia.ca>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone out there used Ardour (in my case for Mac OS X Tiger or
>> Leopard)?  What think you of it? (esp. when compared to Pro Tools or Logic )
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>>
>> Elizabeth H-T
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Elizabeth Hinkle-Turner
>>
>> Asst. Director - Academic Computing and User Services
>>
>> The University of North Texas
>>
>> ehinkle at unt.edu
>>
>> 940-565-4808   / 940-453-6938
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------
>> From: Magnus Alexanderson <magnus.alexanderson at telia.com>
>> Date: Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:22 PM
>> To: cec-conference at concordia.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi.
>> If I remember correctly, Kim Cascone and a few others has tried it and
>> said good things about it. Some prefered it compared to Pro Tools. So
>> perhaps worth checking...
>> best,
>> Magnus Alexanderson (composer/improviser) in Sweden
>>
>> ----------
>> From: Michal Seta <mis at artengine.ca>
>> Date: Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:35 AM
>> To: cec-conference at concordia.ca
>>
>>
>> Ardour has matured a lot in the past 3 years or so.  I have not tried
>> it on MaxOSX, my understanding is that setup requires a little bit of
>> getting used to (you need JACK Audio Connection Kit) and it probably
>> does not support your Wave plugins. It does come with a handful (a
>> little over 100) of LADSPA plugins and you should be able to use your
>> AudioUnit plugins (I have no clue, off the top of my head, what about
>> VST plugins on that platform).  MIDI is coming with version 3.
>>
>> In terms of multitracking functionality it certainly offers as much as
>> the tools you mention.  I do not know Logic but a couple of things
>> come to mind in comparison with ProTools:  you can use it with ANY
>> audio hardware and you have no limit on number of plugins, busses or
>> tracks.  That also means that you can mix for as many channels as you
>> wish (whether they are physically available or not!).  There are
>> certainly other advantages, Ardour website covers features in more
>> depth.  Ardour's documentation is probably not as well polished and
>> complete as ProTools or other similar software.  Oh, and if you do try
>> Ardour, get a 3-button mouse because Ardour takes advantage of all 3
>> buttons in combination with various keyboard shortcuts.
>>
>> Hope that helps
>>
>> ./MiS
>>
>> ----------
>> From: peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi at gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:55 AM
>> To: cec-conference at concordia.ca
>>
>>
>> Some issues with ardour. Editing the automation is not very easy
>> (particularly copy and paste). Grouping tracks does not include the
>> automation editing wich is a nighmare as there is no easy way to copy
>> an automation from one track and paste it exactly on the same time
>> spot on another track. So ot os particularly difficult to deal with
>> multiple mono files.
>>
>> If it was not for this problem I would use it.
>>
>> It seems that ardour is not so good when it comes to editing but for
>> recording and general mixing it is fine.
>>
>> Best
>> Peiman
>>
>> 2009/3/31 Michal Seta <mis at artengine.ca>:
>>
>> ----------
>> From: Ivo Tobin Lippold <it at goodnightnobody.ca>
>> Date: Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:36 PM
>> To: cec-conference at concordia.ca
>>
>>
>> I second this. In every aspect but this one Ardour seems as capable as
>> either ProTools or Logic, and has the distinct advantage of being free.
>> Perhaps if enough people were to post to the Ardour forums complaining, they
>> would work to fix this issue? It is a serious problem for electroacoustic
>> composition, given the degree to which we often rely on automation.
>> I Tobin
>>
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