[Ardour-Dev] importing files

[Fons Adriaensen]

On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 09:41:05AM -0400, Paul Davis wrote:

> run ls -l on these files.
 
After reading Jesse's post I did a ls -il and yes, these are hard links.
My first suspicions based on df must have been wrong.

> if the originals are on the same filesystem as the session, ardour will
> *hard* link the file into the session so that even if it is
> moved/renamed/deleted in its original location, it still exists as we
> expect it to.

And otherwise this safety net can't exist, and no link at all is made.
It's this different behaviour that I just couldn't imagine. It could be
quite confusing... (actually it was). Any way to avoid it, i.e. to stop
ardour making the hard links ? I'd always expect the same results when
deleting a file, regardless of its relative place wrt ardour sessions.

Anyway, many thanks for the help !

Regarding the short 'placeholder' files, here are two listings for
a session with one embedded 9-ch file. The first one after creating
the session, the second after quitting and reloading it.

For the first one, notice that there are 

9 files Audio 1-1%*
8 files Audio 1-2%*
7 files Audio 1-3%*
6 files Audio 1-4%*
5 files Audio 1-5%*
4 files Audio 1-6%*
3 files Audio 1-7%*

What very strange things are happening here ?

The total number seems to be quadratic in the number of channels of
the embedded file. Next year I may have 36-ch files. That would mean
36 * 37 / 2 - 3 = 663 of these files....


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total 188
drwxr-xr-x 2 fons audio 4096 2007-11-01 14:47 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 fons audio 4096 2007-11-01 14:44 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1%L.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1%R.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1%a.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1%b.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1%c.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1%d.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1%e.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1%f.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1%g.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1%h.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1%i.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-1.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-2%a.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-2%b.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-2%c.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-2%d.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-2%e.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-2%f.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-2%g.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-2%h.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-3%a.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-3%b.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-3%c.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-3%d.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-3%e.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-3%f.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-3%g.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-4%a.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-4%b.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-4%c.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-4%d.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-4%e.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-4%f.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-5%a.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-5%b.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-5%c.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-5%d.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-5%e.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-6%a.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-6%b.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-6%c.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-6%d.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-7%a.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-7%b.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:44 Audio 1-7%c.wav
---------------
total 44
drwxr-xr-x 2 fons audio 4096 2007-11-01 14:48 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 fons audio 4096 2007-11-01 14:44 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:48 Audio 1-1%a.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:48 Audio 1-1%b.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:48 Audio 1-1%c.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:48 Audio 1-1%d.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:48 Audio 1-1%e.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:48 Audio 1-1%f.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:48 Audio 1-1%g.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:48 Audio 1-1%h.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 fons audio   56 2007-11-01 14:48 Audio 1-1%i.wav
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Ciao,

-- 
FA

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