[ardour-dev] cvs commit

Jan Depner eviltwin69 at cableone.net
Tue May 11 08:03:48 PDT 2004

Yes, that's all very well and good.  However, when I strip out all GVerb
plugins from my old .ardour file and run Ardour it comes up fine.  If I
add a GVERB plugin to a 1 in/2 out track it works fine.  If I save the
session it works fine.  If I try to load that saved session again it
"Aborts".  That would be a bug not a feature.


On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 09:55, Ross Vandegrift wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 10:36:13PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
> > one of the things to be done pre-1.0 is to add versioning to session
> > files. once this is done, no numbered session file will ever be
> > considered "invalid" - we will use a different code path to load it. 
> > and any numbered version will be valid - it will have been produced by
> > ardour. if the user edited it by hand and messed it up - well, i am
> > sorry but it will take a stronger person than me to add sufficient
> > checks the tangled and convoluted loading pathway that ensure this
> > will always be ok.
> This sounds like a good plan to me.  I can understand Jack's concerns
> about input, but it's really common for software to fail on a really
> messed up save file.  I think once you hit the point where a session
> file isn't recognizable, you're totally correct in not being able to
> load it.
> > however, at this time, i consider all "older" sessions (file formats)
> > to be irrelevant, though with the heavy heart that comes from
> > understanding the burden this places on beta testers.
> I also think that this is a good move.  Until something called "stable"
> is released you shouldn't have to be tied to a specific format.  This
> has happened twice to me, but in both cases, there were simple scripts
> availble that fixed older session files.  Witness how many times the
> on-disk format for ReiserFS changes in a development cycle for a
> comparison.
> -- 
> Ross Vandegrift
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