<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Arnold Krille <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arnold@arnoldarts.de">arnold@arnoldarts.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
>From my memory 5ms delay is about 1 or two meters of sound. So instead of<br>
hearing the direct sound from the guitarists amp 5 meters away, they hear the<br>
indirect headphone sound of it "2 meters away". I think they can cope with<br>
that.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>See my previous post, most people(If not all) won't ever hear that difference.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
And running an analog signal through a lot of RC-parts with all the phase<br>
shifting is probably not that zero-latency as you might think either.<br></blockquote><div><br>Running through analog equipment is pretty close to it in most cases. Close enough not to worry about it.<br> </div><div> </div>
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And for the crowd its the less a problem, the bigger the crowd and venue is,<br>
the might here a slight effect when they are really close to the stage and the<br>
PA isn't that loud so they hear both the singer original and trough PA.<br>
For other instruments: Drum sound is to short to figure out the phasing,<br>
guitars have the phaser already as an effect, keys are not that loud on stage.<br>
So the effects you hear are to slight to hear them when you are actually there<br>
to listen to the music.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>Um... In a well designed live system you have front fills, things properly delayed to the proscenium, and really no noticeable phasing problems. This is bog standard for a decent live setup in my world. If you hear the stage volume first by a few mS this can be a very GOOD thing. Again see my previous post about the Haas effect, we use delays in this fashion to keep imaging on the stage and natural sounding.<br>
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All in all the question isn't whether going digital is ready for live usage.<br>
It is used for that already by _lots_ of productions.<br>
The question is whether custom-made Linux rigs are ready for live usage. And<br>
there the answers are a bit more spread.<br></blockquote><div><br>The answers depend on what people are talking about. If they are talking about reselling those rigs, which is where this conversation started, the answer is no, or rather no without a lot more testing, support, and finances than I think people realize. If they are talking about using the rigs themselves where if something goes wrong they can fix it real quick and move on, then possibly depending on the person. <br>
<br> Seablade<br></div></div>