[Ardour-Users] Again: Loss of a track

[jk at jasonkahn.net]

for what it's worth, i only record with v. 2.8.16. 
i  only mix with v. 3.580 (which seems better 
suited for this than v. 2). but v. 3.580 seems, in 
my opinion, too risky to record with. i've also 
lost tracks a couple of times (concert 
recordings). as the saying goes, one burned, twice 
shy...

i'm just hoping this issue gets resolved with the 
next update. i still think ardour is a really 
great program to work with (i've been using it 
steadily for the last six years), aside from this 
one pervasive and very bothersome bug.

jason

On 09/13/2014 10:01 PM, 
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> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:48:34 -0400
> From: "jonetsu at teksavvy.com" <jonetsu at teksavvy.com>
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> Subject: [Ardour-Users] Again: Loss of a track
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> Again, loss of an audio track.  Recorded something very fine.  Then
> closed the session and listened to other sessions.  Came back to
> today's session, loaded it.  Last track, piano stuff, is lost. Always
> the lasttrack of the session.  And always those laconic messages about
> files not found.
>
> Seriously, this starts to be seriously a bummer.  I do not like the
> idea of having spontaneous ideas wiped off like that especially since
> spontaneous ideas are often a treasure.  I can go to extreme to
> preserve that, if at all possible.  A recorder should record.  And it
> shoudl be possible to listen to recorded tracks thereafter.  Darn.
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:23:28 +0200
> From: Robin Gareus <robin at gareus.org>
> To: "jonetsu at teksavvy.com" <jonetsu at teksavvy.com>
> Cc: ardour-users <ardour-users at lists.ardour.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Again: Loss of a track
> Message-ID: <5413AAA0.5000605 at gareus.org>
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> On 09/13/2014 03:48 AM, jonetsu at teksavvy.com wrote:
>
>>   Last track, piano stuff, is lost. Always the lasttrack of the session.
>
> Are you sure that's the precise case?
>
> Could it be, you created an Audio-track with default name ("Audio 1"),
> recorded (or imported) something on it and then renamed it.
>
> Then created a new track which is then also named "Audio 1" and record
> on that without renaming it before recording?
>
> If so, that problem was fixed in Ardour 3.5.385 (2014-May-29).
>
>
> In any case if you, or someone else, still has Arodur 3.5.380 around,
> could you please try to reproduce this:
>
> 1) New session, create one audio-track with default name ("Audio 1").
> 2) rec-enable the track (to prevent playlist name changes).
> 3) Create another track with default name ("Audio 2")
> 4) rename it to "Audio 1" ...
>     .. it will automatically be named "Audio 1.1"
> 5) rec-enanble it as well, then record on both tracks.
>
> Both tracks now write files "Audio 1-<NUMBER>.wav" in the interchange
> folder.
>
> 6) disable rec-en on the first track, only record on the 2nd
> 6b) .. and vice versa.
>
> IIRC Ardour3.5.380 did not properly keep track of unique numbers in that
> case and you could loose files.
>
> An easy way around that bug is to give the track a unique name on creation.
>
>
> If above issue is not the problem that you experience, please file a bug
> report at http://tracker.ardour.org/  ideally with step-by-step
> description how to reproduce this. If it's an erratic one-off issue with
> a specific session only, attach the .ardour session file and an index of
> files in the session dir ( find /path/to/session-name ), that may give
> some clues as to what's going on.
>
> best,
> robin
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:52:14 -0400
> From: Brett McCoy <idragosani at gmail.com>
> To: Robin Gareus <robin at gareus.org>
> Cc: ardour-users <ardour-users at lists.ardour.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Again: Loss of a track
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> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Robin Gareus <robin at gareus.org> wrote:
>
>> On 09/13/2014 03:48 AM, jonetsu at teksavvy.com wrote:
>>
>>>   Last track, piano stuff, is lost. Always the lasttrack of the session.
>>
>> Are you sure that's the precise case?
>>
>> Could it be, you created an Audio-track with default name ("Audio 1"),
>> recorded (or imported) something on it and then renamed it.
>>
>> Then created a new track which is then also named "Audio 1" and record
>> on that without renaming it before recording?
>>
>> If so, that problem was fixed in Ardour 3.5.385 (2014-May-29).
>>
>>
>> In any case if you, or someone else, still has Arodur 3.5.380 around,
>> could you please try to reproduce this:
>>
>
> Is 3.5.385 available? 3.5.380 seems to be the latest version available from
> ardour.org
>