[Ardour-Users] "Set tempo from region" broken?

Kevin Thoma kevin.thoma88 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 27 04:42:48 PDT 2012

That's bad news... But if it's not supposed to be valid, why does it
appear to work perfectly until I undo stuff?
And how would I go about using time signatures to make sure each tempo
change starts at a new bar?

Anyway, thanks for the heads up!

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Arve Barsnes <arve.barsnes at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 27 August 2012 02:57, Kevin Thoma <kevin.thoma88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> I was going to report this issue to the bug tracker on ardour.org but I seem
>> to be the only one with this problem, so I decided to ask here first to see
>> if it's something on my end (because I feel like if a feature was this
>> broken to everyone else, I would have found something about it on the
>> net/forums)...
>> So I recorded a drum track that wasn't played to a click track, and am now
>> trying to get the grid in ardour to match the (variable) tempo of the
>> drummer. In theory, this works fine. I split up the whole performance into
>> one bar regions, then use the "set tempo from region=Bar" function to add a
>> new tempo marker to the beginning of each region. Everything's fine until I
>> restart ardour, at which point the tempo markers are all over the place,
>> rendering all previous manual tempo setting useless. After the restart, the
>> first tempo change marker "snaps" to the beginning of the next bar in global
>> tempo. So if the global tempo is 120bpm and I set a tempo change marker at
>> bar 3, beat 2 at that tempo, after a restart of ardour the tempo marker will
>> - wrongly - be at bar 4, beat 1. For some reason, the newly set tempo then
>> still doesn't change with the beginning of the next bar or region (where I
>> originally set a second tempo change marker), but stays the same for six or
>> seven bars, after which my original second tempo change will occur (and so
>> on for the remaining tempo changes).
>> The same falling-out-of-alignment happens when I "undo" the placement of a
>> tempo marker, and even "redo" won't fix it. Obviously, this means I can't
>> use the function, because the information it generates seems to corrupt on
>> saving. Any ideas what could be happening here? I'm using ardour 2.12 and
>> can reproduce this behaviour in a new session every time.
> There was some change a while back, making tempo markers valid only at
> the start of bars. Not sure why the change was made, but there you
> are. Your best bet at the moment is probably to use time signatures to
> make sure each tempo change starts at a new bar.
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