[Ardour-Users] Ardour-Users Digest, Vol 89, Issue 7

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Sat Jun 11 13:38:18 PDT 2011


On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 15:31 -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
> ardour-users-request at lists.ardour.org wrote:
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:41:57 -0400
> > From: Paul Davis <paul at linuxaudiosystems.com>
> > To: ardour-users <ardour-users at lists.ardour.org>
> > Subject: [Ardour-Users] help needed to ascertain a MIDI design
> > 	question
> > Message-ID: <BANLkTi=vpif16eKWz90TSPZJUJSX_g_kwA at mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > i need to ask for some help from those of you with access to other
> > MIDI sequencers (proprietary, open source or whatever).
> >
> > the task is this: do whatever you need to do to create some MIDI data
> > with notes that you can edit. how you get there doesn't (or shouldn't)
> > matter.
> >
> > having done that, now edit the notes with a simple edit: take one note
> > (or more if you want) and drag so it ends up overlapping with another
> > note (i.e. they end up at the same pitch, but different, overlapping
> > durations).
> >
> > what does the program you're testing do at this point? MIDI itself
> > doesn't really allow for this, because its based on an instrument
> > model inspired by most acoustic instruments where you cannot play the
> > same pitch twice without ending the first instance of that pitch. but
> > there are a variety of possible things a sequencer could do. Ardour 3
> > has 4 options for what to do already, but we need to decide what the
> > default should be.
> >
> > send your replies to the list, so that people can see when someone
> > else has already tried this with program XXXX.
> >   
> 
> Voyetra's Sequencer Plus prompts the user to decide whether to shorten 
> the current note (the moved noted) or delete the following note. 
> However, each track in that sequencer is assigned a single MIDI channel, 
> i.e. the view displays only one channel's data. IIRC Master Tracks Pro 
> allowed a multichannel view in which notes could overlap if they were on 
> separate channels.
> 
> Btw, sequencing MIDI parts for a guitar may require the ability to sound 
> the same pitch in two or more instances. The only way to do it is with 
> multiple channels.

Matrix-1000 supports a special option for this.
I'm a guitarist, without MIDI pick up, but with an Oberheim :).
Yes, the owner's manual says that 6 MIDI channels are used.

> 
> Another option would be to shorten the following note by the duration of 
> the overlap. That change would alter the rhythm, but it might be an 
> interesting transform. :)
> 
> Best,
> 
> dp
> 
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