[Ardour-Users] click free editing and zero crossings

Simon Wise simonzwise at gmail.com
Thu Jun 3 23:36:23 PDT 2010

Paul Davis wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Simon Wise <simonzwise at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Isn't joining two ends is just a particular case of editing a crossfade??
> quite the opposite. its possible that you are used to the protools
> notion of a crossfade, which involves playing material before and
> after a splice. ardour doesn't work this way: crossfades always
> require explicit overlapping. one *could* create a loop with a
> crossfade between the ends, but i think you can also do it quite
> successfully without, if you have the right tool.

I've rarely used Protools. (Using mainly Pd, Ardour and Jack on OSX was the 
reason I switched to Linux.)

The model I was recalling was some video editors, they work with the same 
cross-fade model as Ardour - cross-fades are the transition between explicitly 
overlapping media on the same track. Media from each clip usually continues 
beyond the part revealed in the timeline, and is manipulated on the timeline in 
the same way as in Ardour.

The interesting extra features in their xfade editor are that the two pieces 
being joined can each be moved, and the ends of the cross-fade (i.e. the ends of 
each clip) can be adjusted from within the xfade dialogue.

I described it because your description of a visual loop editor dialogue where 
you can drag the waveform on each side of the join, and drag the join point back 
and forward, seemed just like this. Especially if one thinks of all Ardour edit 
or join points as short cross-fades, as discussed earlier in the thread.

I may have misunderstood your description, if so apologies for the noise.


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