[Ardour-Users] OSX vs Linu

david headon davidheadonuk at yahoo.co.uk
Sun Aug 23 14:24:55 PDT 2009


Succinctly put too. 

 John, you have continuously shown a huge amount of insight both technically, and idealogically.  
My ideal concept of a multimedia environment blessed with full accelerated 3D etc, has been a problem due to several NvidiA related problems, under several distros. (exaple...)

I have used Debian 64Studio for a while as my princial 'serious' recording environment.
(used various RedHat based distros in the past including Mandrake-Driva, as well as early Slackware and more )     
The move of 64 studio toward an Ubuntu style package management system has caused formerly available packages to disappear from repros, and be replaced by ?????

also the folks i know who MUST use Mac are ProTools users, and this is an industry based conceit that i'll not allow myself.

Anything is better than running Windows and a huge pile of intivirus clag all the time, so you can choose between immedeiate functionaliy, or eventual perfection.

I choose the latter all the time. I WAS a Lego influences child once though-

buyer 'lock-in' is annother conceit i can't abide with.
Jack/Ardour and the rest are my future, and i feel free.

i do wish things would become less flaky in the Ubuntu releases.
Nvidia and others can contribute better, but there sre ways around these issues that are easy for Suse users for example.

i may have to start again in my 'Distro Search'
for multimedia use.

I know i don't need  a Mac though!


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From: John Emmas <johne53 at tiscali.co.uk>
To: ardour-users at lists.ardour.org
Sent: Sunday, 23 August, 2009 21:18:39
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] OSX vs Linu

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Vecchione"
> For the record, I strongly disagree with the concept that any distribution
> of Linux needs to be a DIY system.  That defeats one of the main purposes
> of distributions
Whether Linux "needs to be" a DIY OS is of course debatable but I'd have to
say that I'm with Rob on this one.  I described Linux earlier as "high
maintenance" but whichever way you dress it up, at this point in time, Linux
is not an OS that the average Joe can install with ease.  Things are
definitely getting better but there's still a long road ahead.

My personal view is that driver installtion & configuration remains the
greatest bugbear with Linux.  Apple has solved this neatly by heavily
restricting the user's choice of hardware but Microsoft has the same problem
on almost the same scale as Linux.  Microsoft's approach has been to unify
hardware and software manufacturers with its MSI installation strategy (the
ubiquitous "setup.exe" file).  Well configured MSI installers have
completely removed the pain of installing both drivers and apps under
Windows - in particular, eliminating the old problem of "DLL hell" that used
to plague Windows users in the days when every manufacturer had its own
preferred installation strategy.

With the increased usage of package managers, installing applications under
Linux has become similarly painless.  Unfortunately, the same cannot be said
for installing drivers.  There are probably as many different strategies as
there are driver writers, which is a great letdown.  Somebody needs to come
up with a solution that unifies them because as long as this problem
persists Linux, IMHO, will never be able to shed its 'DIY' image.  By hook
or by crook, drivers need to become as easy to install as applications have
become in recent years.


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