[Ardour-Users] new bug/feature tracker features

John Emmas johne53 at tiscali.co.uk
Tue Jun 17 02:21:15 PDT 2008

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Davis" <paul at linuxaudiosystems.com>
Subject: [Ardour-Users] new bug/feature tracker features
> Please let me know if there any problem arising from the Mantis upgrade
> and any thoughts anybody has on this system.
I don't know whether this is worth considering (or even possible) but when I
looked at the Mantis entries marked as 'features', it struck me that the
vast majority (in fact, all the ones I looked at) were feature 'requests' as
opposed to feature 'proposals'.

If a price is to be put on features, it seems more sensible to me that the
price should apply to proposed features, rather than requested features.
The reason being that several dozen users might all request the same
feature.  Therefore any dev who offers to implement that feature would need
to track down dozens of requests and make sure they all get set to the same

Along with the existing Mantis categories (Unassigned / Resolved / Recently
Modified etc) might there be a case for having a new category called
'Feature Proposals'?  Anyone requesting a particular feature could then
check quite easily whether a dev has already offered to implement it.
Having all the information in one place would also make it easier for devs
to provide progress reports and for users to view status information such as
cost, number of existing sponsors, estimated delivery date and the like.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Davis" <paul at linuxaudiosystems.com>
To: <ardour-users at lists.ardour.org>
Sent: 17 June 2008 02:19
Subject: [Ardour-Users] new bug/feature tracker features

> Mantis, the system we use for tracking bugs & feature requests for
> Ardour, was upgrade this evening (to version 1.2.0a). One of the reasons
> for this are the new "sponsorship" features built into it.
> If you visit the bug tracker:
> http://tracker.ardour.org/view_all_bug_page.php
> you will see that all bug reports now come with a "Cost" and "US$"
> field. By default, and to recognize the support from the existing
> sponsorship program, all bugs and features will default to a zero cost -
> that is, you should expect to see things fixed/added without explicit
> support for the issue at hand.
> However, because (as I was worried might happen), one of my major
> commercial sponsors pulled funding, you should expect to see several
> feature requests get marked up with a cost over the next few weeks and
> months.
> At present, the "bug sponsorship" is an honor system: you sign up with a
> "promise" to pay a certain number of US$ (a good deal for most of the
> world right now!), and the bug/feature system tracks all such pledges.
> Then, once the feature is implemented, people who pledged to support it
> will hopefully pay up (via any mechanism that works for them).
> Mantis doesn't currently offer any mechanism to track actual payments
> associated with a bug or feature, and it may be hard to do in practice.
> It may be that if we can figure out the technology, this may change a
> little at some point in time, so that we can show actual payments and/or
> move to an escrow-like system.
> The system will be open to developers other than myself - I certainly
> don't intend to claim credit for work that someone else does. If you see
> a feature you'd be willing (seriously willing) to implement for a fee,
> please make sure you have "developer" status in Mantis, and adjust the
> "Cost" field for the bug by clicking on its "Update Issue" button in the
> main bug report form.
> Please let me know if there any problem arising from the Mantis upgrade
> and any thoughts anybody has on this system.
> thanks to everyone who works on, uses, supports and spreads the word
> about Ardour,
> --p
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