[Ardour-Users] Plugins and stability

Brett Clark Brett at ciscoinc.com
Fri Aug 3 11:35:48 PDT 2007

I also have learned to appreciate the FIL 4 band parametric by Fons Adriaensen. 
Ive used the GVerb and the TAP-Dynamics w/o any issues as well.  In fact, i dont 
think i have any sessions that arent using at least 2 of those.  Im going to toss out 
an idea and hope someone has the time/resources to take off with it:  Would there 
be any value in a community website where users can evaluate and/or critique 
plugins?  Personally, i have somewhere around a zillion LADSPA plugins (give or 
take a dozen) which i only use a tiny percentage of even though im confident that 
there are a couple "gold nuggets" hidden in the plethora of others.  It would be nice 
to go somewhere and see which ones people are using and how they're using them.


From: ardour-users-bounces at lists.ardour.org on behalf of John Rigg
Sent: Fri 8/3/2007 12:51 PM
To: Matt Savigear
Cc: ardour-users at lists.ardour.org
Subject: Re: [Ardour-Users] Plugins and stability

On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 03:23:06PM +0100, Matt Savigear wrote:
> With reference to stability issues popping up on the list, I have
> generally found ardour2 to be pretty solid for my admittedly limited use.
> My (non-technical) wife uses ardour more than I and has complained of
> crashes which seem to be related to the use of LADSPA plugins (some
> plate reverb, apparently). Is it possible for a plugin to bring ardour
> down, rather than the snag being in ardour's plugin handling code? If
> so, is there a relatively straightforward way of getting debug info for
> the plugin? I haven't managed to report anything so far because I
> usually only find out about crashes after the fact.
> Alternatively, does it make sense to push the channels through something
> like jack-rack and back in again, hosting the plugins outside ardour?
> Will this protect ardour from crashes if the plugin goes down, and do I
> lose anything (or gain any limitations or potential snags) by externally
> hosting the plugin in this way?

FWIW, I work around this kind of problem by avoiding the unstable plugins
(and there are quite a few). Gverb works well and is stable on my
amd64 system. For multiband parametric EQ, I couldn't find anything
that worked until I tried FIL plugins (fil-plugins package on Debian),
which has a very nice (and stable) 4-band parametric EQ.

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