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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Jörn,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I just found this OLD post (2017) in my junk folder! Omg.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">YES – we start jack via qjackctl at login. So jackd is running when ardour is started. Is this unusual??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Our audio stack is ALSA – Jack – Pulseaudio<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Moreso, pipewire seems to be taking over. Our gentoo systems want to ‘default’ to prefer pipewire over pulseaudio.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I have undone the USE flags to have pulseaudio, but will probably soon go with pipewire. We have jack in there<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">(between pa & alsa) so we can run OpenAL and address our ring of 14.2 speakers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a href="https://dataarena.net/dive-in/wiki/audio">https://dataarena.net/dive-in/wiki/audio</a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Apologies this is so old now – but is it still the case that ardour does not expect qjackctl to have started jackd??!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Ben.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Ardour-Dev <ardour-dev-bounces@lists.ardour.org> on behalf of Jörn Nettingsmeier <nettings@stackingdwarves.net><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 3 August 2017 at 12:18 am<br>
<b>To: </b>ardour-dev@lists.ardour.org <ardour-dev@lists.ardour.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Ardour-Dev] option to Disable pop sound at Startup?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 08/02/2017 03:00 AM, Ben Simons wrote:<br>
> Hi Paul,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Thx for your reply. Apologies. I thought the "On Land" gentoo<br>
> <br>
> line was sufficient. Does the pop-sound depend on the platform?<br>
> <br>
> Oh! Is the pop indicating an error?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Ardour5 runs on a couple of machines here,<br>
> <br>
> all up-to-date gentoo linux, running<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ALSA <- JACK <- PULSE_AUDIO<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Jack is started with qjackctl, which in turn starts pulseaudio<br>
> <br>
> such that it feeds back into jack. Took a while to get right.<br>
> <br>
> Seems to be okay (famous last words) ;)<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> qjackqtl has post-startup commands to pactl load-module jack-sink. ie.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> pactl load-module module-jack-sink channels=22; \<br>
> <br>
> pactl load-module module-jack-source channels=22; \<br>
> <br>
> pacmd set-default-sink jack_out; pacmd set-default-source jack_in<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> The main system is connected by USB to an RME Fireface UFX (22chan)<br>
> <br>
> It runs in USB CC Mode. <a href="http://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=16845">
http://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=16845</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Further RME details (lsusb and pactl) are attached in textfiles.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Another has an Asus Xonar DG PCI uses the CMI8786 chipset<br>
> <br>
> and will be recognized by the kernel in the following way:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> % lspci -v | grep -A7 -i audio<br>
> <br>
> 84:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8788 <br>
> [Oxygen HD Audio]<br>
> Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8521<br>
> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 I/O ports <br>
> at f000 [size=256]<br>
> Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2<br>
> <br>
> The kernel module snd-oxygen is used to control the card.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Both systems make a pop-sound when Ardour5 starts.<br>
<br>
<br>
It's very unlikely that Ardour is to blame for that sound...<br>
You are starting jack before Ardour, with qjackctl? I'm asking because<br>
some interfaces behave badly when they come up (I've seen that with a <br>
few fireware-based ones), but it's strange you're seeing this both with <br>
a pro RME device _and_ a CMI chip.<br>
What could happen is that you are using a session with a badly behaved <br>
plugin. Something that emits a constant DC signal comes to mind - <br>
inaudible during normal operation, but will cause a pop when you connect it.<br>
Or does it happen with a new, empty Ardour session as well?<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Jörn Nettingsmeier<br>
De Rijpgracht 8, 1055VR Amsterdam, Nederland<br>
Tel. +49 177 7937487<br>
<br>
Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio), Tonmeister VDT<br>
<a href="http://stackingdwarves.net">http://stackingdwarves.net</a><br>
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