<div dir="ltr">Hi Michael,<div><br></div><div>thanks for answering - actually, I'm not an Ardour developer, but just a regular user, who happened to run into the same problem like you. </div><div><br></div><div>What I did was just to provide some (hopefully useful) information for chasing down the problem. In order to try out whether the patch works for you, you'll need to build Ardour yourself. Which is actually not that hard - if you want to give it a shot, there's some documentation available here: <a href="https://ardour.org/building_linux.html">https://ardour.org/building_linux.html</a> (and google has a few more hits that give even more detailed instructions).</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Toi</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Paul Davis <<a href="mailto:paul@linuxaudiosystems.com">paul@linuxaudiosystems.com</a>> schrieb am Di., 17. Jan. 2017 um 12:33 Uhr:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">files that end in *.cc are not configuration files. They are part of the source code of the program. If you do not build ardour yourself, their existence and contents is of no importance to you.<br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Dr. Michael Kuhlmann <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:RuA.Kuhlmann@t-online.de" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">RuA.Kuhlmann@t-online.de</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Toby,<br class="gmail_msg">
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thank you for your answer on Mantis: <a href="http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=7157" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=7157</a> - and excuse me please for not having answered yet (I just learned a minute ago that you had written in there).<br class="gmail_msg">
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Your new message in here means that the solution decribed in Mantis (which I will have to check out - since it's my first encounter with Ardour's configuration files) does not work completely...?<br class="gmail_msg">
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Your message in Mantis means that there is a configuration text file a/libs/ardour/region.cc ? I can't find it on my system, unfortunately...<br class="gmail_msg">
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Thanks again<br class="gmail_msg">
Michael<br class="gmail_msg">
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From: Tobi Stadelmaier <<a href="mailto:stadeltobi@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">stadeltobi@gmail.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
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Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Issue 0007157: Cannot move an automation curve<br class="gmail_msg">
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I'd like to make you aware of the issue above, since it bit me personally,<br class="gmail_msg">
but more importantly, I think it's something that might well break someone<br class="gmail_msg">
else's workflow.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Effectively, the checkbox that says "move automation together with regions"<br class="gmail_msg">
in the preferences is ineffective in recent Ardour versions - it broke just<br class="gmail_msg">
after 5.0, and has been broken ever since. With a current version, you<br class="gmail_msg">
can't have Ardour move the automation of one track together with your edits<br class="gmail_msg">
of the regions any more. No matter if you have that checkbox set or not,<br class="gmail_msg">
the automation data of a track stays where it is, even when you move a<br class="gmail_msg">
region (or ripple-delete it, for that matter). Which I think certainly has<br class="gmail_msg">
the potential to be a major pain for certain users.<br class="gmail_msg">
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The workaround that did it for me is to consolidate the track _before_ you<br class="gmail_msg">
move things around, but that's really only a workaround for sure.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Anyway, I bisected it to a certain commit, and double-checked whether this<br class="gmail_msg">
really fixed it for me - details are in the bug report.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Now, while I'm now personally running a patched version of 5.5 that solves<br class="gmail_msg">
it for me, I am really a bit uncomfortable with the alleged "fix" - the<br class="gmail_msg">
commit in question clearly tried to fix _another_ thing, which is not a<br class="gmail_msg">
factor in my personal workflow (since I don't use midi), so I'd be much<br class="gmail_msg">
more comfortable if someone who knows their way around the region.cc file<br class="gmail_msg">
could take a look. Quite honestly, I have no idea what the commit in<br class="gmail_msg">
question tried to do in the first place. But I'd be glad to learn :)<br class="gmail_msg">
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Of course I'll be happy to help (bear in mind that I'm a Java person,<br class="gmail_msg">
though, and was basically banging my head against the keyboard until it<br class="gmail_msg">
worked for me again :)) But I'd certainly be able to help with testing a<br class="gmail_msg">
real fix, do some more bisection, or whatever. Just let me know.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Cheers,<br class="gmail_msg">
Tobi<br class="gmail_msg">
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