[ardour-dev] metaphors and metamorphs

Pau Arumi parumi at iua.upf.es
Tue Feb 7 05:40:30 PST 2006

Hi Rick,
What kind of uses are you thinking this tool should support?
Could you provide concrete examples?

Not that I'm an ardour developer but I'm interested anyway.


En/na Rick ha escrit:
> Hi,
> I'd posed a couple of questions to the wrong ardour list a few months
> ago and was told that the questions I had should probably be either
> here or on the user list.
> The one that probably belongs here;
> If one wanted to start with ardour to make a "trackless" mixer, is
> there anything that's basic to the programming that is inherently
> track programming?
> Sorry for the naivete of the question, (I'm not a programmer) but
> here's some context:
> I'm finishing a PhD in electroacoustic composition. I'm looking for
> future research (post-doc) projects and as a composer am pretty
> dissatisfied with all the audio workstations I've used (no offence
> here, I haven't used Ardour yet). My experience so far is Logic,
> ProTools(TDM and LE) Audacity (not really a workstation) a tiny bit of
> Ableton, a bit of Nuendo, Deck, annnnd... well I think that's it.
> Most (well all but maybe Ableton) sound mixing tools are basically
> tape deck metaphors, which at this point seems a bit rustic. That's
> not meant as a slight or anything, its just that people don't think
> like that naturally, and most of the users these days haven't acutally
> seen a tape deck. Also, the metaphor forces linear thinking into a
> situation that is not necessarily a linear circumstance.
> I'm looking for an open source project that could handle a fork in its
> path so to speak. The university I'm at right now has been very
> receptive to doing open source work, and universities are  sometimes
> good at getting funding for long term projects. We have an engineering
> department, a music technology department, I've done an undergraduate
> in psych and another in music, and I'm in contact with some
> researchers about visual tools, some of it hardware, some of it
> ecological psychology theories.
> Context ok?
> The question then is:
> Is the underlying code for Ardour capable of being worked without the
> track metaphor? Would it be possible to send the data from individual
> regions to a filter (if the tracks were abandoned)? If one were to
> pursue this line of thought, could groups of regions be "bussed" and
> groups of regions be "nested"?
> I know that's a lot of stuff to be asking for someone who isn't a DSP
> programmer, and I realize that parts of the questions are going to be
> seen as pretty naive, but I have to start somewhere.
> I'd appreciate your thoughts, and I know you're busy, so no rush.
> Best,
> Rick

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